Pitso Mosimane believes the old system of apartheid has contributed to the mental division of black people in South Africa even until today, and recalls his own story of being victimised for having money.
Mosimane was speaking 30 years after the country celebrated the release of Nelson Mandela from prison on 11 February, 1990.
'Jingles' was in Greece playing for Ionikos when 'Madiba' was released from Robben Island and watched it on television as the scenes unfolded in South Africa.
The successful Mamelodi Sundowns coach says he has been a victim of hatred in his life from black people and blames it on apartheid.
"That thing was very evil. Even at this point it has kept us as black people that hate within black to black, it's huge," Mosimane said.
"Sometimes we accept when another race has to enjoy the benefits [of apartheid] but when it's your neighbour, your black person, you say 'Yerrr this guy has so much money, why he has to earn so much money'.
"But when it's the CEO of Checkers, CEO of Nedbank, CEO of Sanlam and all these big corporates, you know how much they earn, we accept it, we live with it.
"But if it's a darkie, yerrr, they want to bewitch you. 'How come this guy earns so much money' because we come from that evil spirit of apartheid and I don't blame our people.
"You see it every day, every time. I have also experienced it. It's normal. I don't blame my people. Sometimes when it happens to me I blame apartheid because that thing killed us. It colonised. That thing is destructive.
"Even some people say it was better during apartheid days. I look and say 'no, it was not better'. Apartheid was strong, guys. We have our own challenges now but we can't say we were better with apartheid.
"No, I know where I come from and I know what happened to me. To study physical science in Afrikaans I did. To study mathematics in Afrikaans. You were not there at that time. I am telling you, it was difficult.
"You will struggle with the language more than the figures. How are you going to put it? What is the question?
"Fortunately I was in Soweto where I grew up and we eliminated it through the power of students, the power of education and we fought against that. Look where we are now. We can even talk about it.
"Last time [during apartheid] I wouldn't talk. You know what would happen. I would have been picked up tonight and they say 'you are a politician, you say apartheid what-what'. They sort you out."