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Brazilians must not underestimate underdogs

Brazilians wary of underdogs

Posted: 2008-04-18 09:40

Mamelodi Sundowns will look to continue their excellent form in cup competitions this season when they take on First Division Coastal Stream side FC Cape Town in a Nedbank Cup quarterfinal at the Athlone Stadium on Saturday evening.

Kick off is at 20h00.

The Brazilians already have the Top 8 trophy in the bag and were unlucky to lose to Kaizer Chiefs on penalties in the final of the League Cup late last year.

They have also progressed to the third round of the CAF Champions League, with a tricky tie against Sudan's Al Hilal separating them from the lucrative group phase of the prestigious continental club competition.

Coach Trott Moloto has turned his team's form around since the departure of Gordon Igesund.

Sundowns were imperious in their 1-0 defeat of Kaizer Chiefs at the weekend and they followed that up with a comfortable win against Thanda Royal Zulu in midweek, the first time this season they have won three league games on the trot.

Nonetheless, Sundowns will do well to not to underestimate their First Division opponents, despite the fact that FC Cape Town finished in fourth place in the Coastal Stream, some 21 points off the pace of winners Maritzburg United.

The side from the Mother City have defeated Dynamos, Durban Stars and Winners Park to make it this far in the tournament, and the prospect of claiming the big scalp of Mamelodi Sundowns will be a big motivation for coach Johnny Ferreira and his team.

They are the undoubted underdogs and thus will be under far less pressure than their high profile opponents.
Remember also that FC Cape Town have not conceded a goal in the Nedbank Cup in three games, and, including their Last 16 victory over Park, they are unbeaten in their last three league and cup matches.

NEDBANK CUP RESULTS:

FC Cape Town:
Round Date H/A Opponent Result
Last 16 02/04/08 H Winners Park W 1-0
Last 32 14/03/08 H Durban Stars W 1-0
Prelim 26/01/08 A Dynamos W 1-0

Sundowns:
Last 16 30/03/08 A Kaizer Chiefs D 1-1 (5-4 pens)
Last 32 15/03/08 A Supersport United W 2-1

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Somntu: 2008-04-18 09:52

The BETTER guys are back again, this is a reminder to the Chips and Pilates families who claim to be BIG but could not progress to this stage:

NEDBANK CUP RESULTS:

FC Cape Town:
Round Date H/A Opponent Result
Last 16 02/04/08 H Winners Park W 1-0
Last 32 14/03/08 H Durban Stars W 1-0
Prelim 26/01/08 A Dynamos W 1-0

Sundowns:
Last 16 30/03/08 A Kaizer Chiefs D 1-1 (5-4 pens)
Last 32 15/03/08 A Supersport United W 2-1

OBG: 2008-04-18 09:59

Whoever wrote this article is pathetic. How can he/she claim that sunflowers were unlucky to lose Telkom Cup? Sis! Sunflowers were lucky to lose on penalties, as they were nowhere to found in that game. Even Nedbank Cup, only God knows why they won that game. Our media reporters are so incompetent and disgrace. How can you make such a statement?

sifiso: 2008-04-18 10:00

CHIEFS IS BIGGER THAN BROWN RICE.... CHIEFS IS LIKE WATRE, NEVER EVER GOES OUT OF FASHION.,,, AND THE PSL CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT CHIEFS BABA....

rocco: 2008-04-18 10:09

DOWNS already played the semi-final wit supersport, the final with chips and now we playing the last 16. I see 10-0 here.

SHOE SHINE AND PIANO

Sibusiso: 2008-04-18 10:11

I think we should see other players on Sundowns books, the regular players should be rested and see how the mighty downs do?

Ballycan: 2008-04-18 10:14

There you go sifiso. No one can put things more clearer!

booker: 2008-04-18 10:16

this is unfair to fc cape town i think they shud join forces with pirates and chiefs so we can beat them atleast 3-0 Ned bank is already in the bag Shapa sandawana SHAPAA.

Trot keep playing Josta im tired of the useless fanyana and I want to see Shaaakes

How I wish we could alwas play chiefs

booker: 2008-04-18 10:16

this is unfair to fc cape town i think they shud join forces with pirates and chiefs so we can beat them atleast 3-0 Ned bank is already in the bag Shapa sandawana SHAPAA.

Trot keep playing Josta im tired of the useless fanyana and I want to see Shaaakes

How I wish we could alwas play chiefs

OBG: 2008-04-18 10:21

Sibusiso: 2008-04-18 10:11

There is only one Mighty in PSL and it is KAIZER CHIEFS. The rest are just following what the great Amakhosi has already done. Stop fooling yourself.

masilo: 2008-04-18 10:22

Hey wena Trott! Keng ka wena?, r u scared of a team that u shld run ova?. Nxa! U bcom confident whn u play against chips but all of a sudden "sundowns has to be warry of a minor team". O skatla ka ma**p*, tsamo ja batho bao and o boe ka win.

SADDAM: 2008-04-18 10:26

whtava Sfiso, bt we r on our way 2 FINALS!!!

Snyman: 2008-04-18 10:37

Ntate Moloto can u pls give Shakes a chance rea kopa tu

Lwazinho: 2008-04-18 10:38

Yah, Moloto must rest some key players.I.e.out- Moriri(in:Shakes)out Chabangu in: Ngwepe, out: Nyandoro,in: Acuna. etc
Motsepe must extend Moloto's contract-he brot bak our fading "culture". 2nd choice is d Brazilian Ceas Leal.

Marc: 2008-04-18 10:39

It is a pity that the chiefs supporters thinks that SA soccer revolve around them. Every time you listen to K chiefs supporters, they always say they are rebuilding for the new season.

Guys lets be realistic chiefs era for winning cups is gone. Yes chiefs has in the past dominated like Mike tyson , Mohammed Ali like Uruguay(Winning World Cups). This is the 21st century.

From the recent perfomance being realistic once again the future for K Chiefs looks doomed. Like i said supported by the past three years perfomance, Sundowns is the team to beat unless the Chiefs manage start to forget about the history. and do something about the present

Mtseboz: 2008-04-18 10:41

Sfiso,stop living in the past.I'm tired of being told of how great Chips were a decade ago.This is 2008 and not 1988 when you picked and choose each and every player u wanted.Soccer is business now baba.

Bass-D: 2008-04-18 10:41

Trott's bubble has not been popped yet.
Under normal circumstances, when a new coach arrives, every player including those that were not getting game time from the outgoing coach, they are all physched up automatically without the coache's motivation because they all want to impress the new coach so that they are selected. Later as they settle, the level of input from all plyaers drops to their normal effort. This is when the new coach's ability to motivate, technique and tactics are required. Knowing Trott, he will NOT last the first 5 games of the new season.

Bass-D: 2008-04-18 10:42

By the way, FC Cape have my support to win this game. I will be at the stands with my vuvuzela hoping for a Cape win.

SADDAM: 2008-04-18 10:45

POOR BASS-D

B-BORING
A-ALIEN
S-SUPPORT
S-STUPIDITY
-CRAZY PIG
D-DIE

SADDAM: 2008-04-18 10:46

UZO-BI--SHA PROFFESSOR MGEKEGEKE!!!!

SADDAM: 2008-04-18 10:47

Mgekegeke (sokka ****ysts): 2008-04-18 10:45

FC Cape Town (6) vs Mamelodi Sundowns (0)

OTHER WAY ROUND ALIEN!!!!

2208: 2008-04-18 10:49

sifiso: 2008-04-18 10:00


CHIEFS IS BIGGER THAN BROWN RICE.... CHIEFS IS LIKE WATRE, NEVER EVER GOES OUT OF FASHION.,,, AND THE PSL CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT CHIEFS BABA....

Sour grapes. Nobody can change yo glorious past as KC. Nobody worries about it either. The most import feature in football is the one immediately ahead. Besides bragging about KC, what else can u say about soccer?

njabulo: 2008-04-18 10:49

Its a fact that CHIEFS HAS better support compared 2 SUNDOWNS N THEY BIGGER THAN SUNDOWNS BUT THEY ARE NOT BETTER THAN SUNDOWNS IN THE FIELD. SUNDOWNS IS THE ONLY TEAMS THAT CONSTANTLY BREAKS THE HEARTS OF AMAKHOSI COMPARED TO OTHER 14 PSL TEAMS THAT IS WHY YOU WILL NEVER NEVER EVER FIND AN ARTICLE SAYING DOWNS SHOCK CHIEFS LIKE WHEN YOUR AJAX, TRZee and the rest BEAT MIGHTY AMAKHOSI. UP THE SKY. I LOVE YOU SUNDOWNS

Mtseboz: 2008-04-18 10:51

Poor Bass-D!You are like a lost soul going with a wind.Hope some day you'll find your home.But I'll be damned if its Sundowns.People like you belong to Chips.

Nerville: 2008-04-18 10:53

Ke yona is in the bag and Downs are gonna finish on position 3,
Matlhaloga please come to Bochum over the festive break, we've got some talent here....epsecially ko Bodi....

THX: Boesman AKA Tshvangirai

SADDAM: 2008-04-18 10:53

GEKEKE U SUCK BRU!! ITS COOL 2B AN ANTI-SUNDOWNS NEH?

Nerville: 2008-04-18 11:00

Ke yona is in the bag and Downs are gonna finish on position 3,
Matlhaloga please come to Bochum over the festive break, we've got some talent here....epsecially ko Bodi....

THX: Boesman AKA Tshvangirai

SADDAM: 2008-04-18 11:00

ABAKHOHLWEH!!!!

2208: 2008-04-18 11:04

2004-04-04 Kick Off Article

...Ferreira says they are ready to face a PSL team, but adds that he is hoping to avoid Free State Stars and Mamelodi Sundowns.

“We need to play a PSL side to build confidence. Santos appears very dangerous at the moment but I feel we are familiar with them as we regularly play friendly games against them.” said Ferreira...

The question is: Who's afraid?

Peter: 2008-04-18 11:05

Free soccer lesson on Sutarday for FC CT but Chips supporters are also invited as they daydream for FC CT's win.You loose twice in a week,when Downs win you loose bcos you support our opponents and @ the same time your real team loose.Shapa Nedbank Champs Shapa.
SUNDOWNS 4
FC Cape(T)Down 0

Nerville: 2008-04-18 11:06

In your dreamzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......
There is no way we loosing to Ikapa....
KE YONA is in the bag guys...Like it or NOT....

Stimela se etlaaa....Se rwele Suprise...Si the Chu chu chuuu...Hoooo Stimimelaaaa......

We taking Ke yona in style.....

Marc: 2008-04-18 11:10

It is a pity that the chiefs supporters thinks that SA soccer revolve around them. Every time you listen to K chiefs supporters after a duboius season, they always say they are rebuilding for the new season (it is about hoping that things will change next season, yet thing remains the same)

Guys lets be realistic, chiefs' era for winning cups is gone. Yes chiefs has in the past dominated like Mike tyson , Mohammed Ali like Uruguay(Winning World Cups) did. This is the 21st century. Football has changed.

From the recent perfomance being realistic in the past three years once again the future for K Chiefs looks doomed. Like i said supported by the past three years perfomance, Sundowns is the team to beat unless the Chiefs manage start to forget about the history. and do something about the present

Just giving credit where is due.

Marc: 2008-04-18 11:12

It is a pity that the chiefs supporters thinks that SA soccer revolve around them. Every time you listen to K chiefs supporters after a duboius season, they always say they are rebuilding for the new season (it is about hoping that things will change next season, yet thing remains the same)

Guys lets be realistic, chiefs' era for winning cups is gone. Yes chiefs has in the past dominated like Mike tyson , Mohammed Ali like Uruguay(Winning World Cups) did. This is the 21st century. Football has changed.

From the recent perfomance being realistic in the past three years once again the future for K Chiefs looks doomed. Like i said supported by the past three years perfomance, Sundowns is the team to beat unless the Chiefs manage start to forget about the history. and do something about the present

Just giving credit where is due.

SADDAM: 2008-04-18 11:12

GENTS U CAN SAY WHT U WAN SAY BT TROTT IN NT DAT GUD!!

AGAINST THANDA

BALOYI

MNGOMENI,KANNAMEYER,MABIZELA,MHLONGO

MERE,NYANDORO,CHABANGU, JOSTA DLADLA

ALDAVE,MORIRI

HE GT PRBLM BTWN
MERE N MGOMENI
JOSTA DLADLA N FANYANA DLADLA
KANNAMEYER N LEGOTHOANE
MABIZELA,MHLONGO,MANZINI,JOHANNES
BALOYO N MARLIN
ACUNA,NYANDORO,SAPULA,CARLESE,NGWENYA


I WNDR Y DD HE INCLUDE MERE DIS SHWS DAT SOON HE WILL B OUT OF PLANS!!

HE SUBS MORIRI WTH NGWENYA INSTEAD OF MERE
HE SUBS ALDAVE WTH NDLOVU INSTEAD OF CARLESE

ITS A LOT U CAN CALL ME IF U GT QUERIES 072 443 8012

SADDAM: 2008-04-18 11:14

GEKEKE I DDNT SAY HE IS A GUD COACH, I STILL WNT TOVEY!!

TROTT IS CONFUSE!!

Mr. Proffessor : 2008-04-18 11:28

Marc: 2008-04-18 11:12
I think u r really confused my brother… Chiefs WON the Telkom Knockout Cup – which is the biggest Cup competition eMzansi. 4.5 million… so I don’t know what u mean when u say chiefs’ era of winning Cups is gone. Made u r mistakin’ us wit Sundowns or Pirates.

Chiefs is the only team in the PSL that wins a cup every season… big or small… so ur statement is WRONG!

Mr. Proffessor : 2008-04-18 11:31

Marc: 2008-04-18 11:12
U r really and idiot yazi… SADDAM is betta than u yazi…. hehehe…
This is the 21st century my friend… I don’t know where u did

*The 2001/2002 season was one of the Club’s best, winning four major trophies in four months. These included the Vodacom Challenge, BP Top Eight, Coca-Cola Cup, and the CAF Cup Winners Cup, also known as the “Mandela Cup”.*

U must comment about Banyana Banyana my brotha

Marc: 2008-04-18 11:39

Professor

I know that u are a die hard kaizer Chiefs fan. Like any other fan and human being who is obsessed about sumthin. You are expected to be indenial.

I expected that from you. Chiefs is dying and dying a slow death. The 4.5 million you are talking about it was used to buy Torrelba and pay the Motaungs Bills.

Shareholder have accepetd that Chiefs is not playing the time of D khumalo, A Kuhse , F Madida. It just playing coz tis just name. My friend get used to it.

Mr. Proffessor : 2008-04-18 11:39

IF TROTT is a GREAT coach AND doesn’t fear the ikapa boys – this is the squad he must USE… Phela the sundowns fans say their first team will WIN: 10-0 to FC Cape Town…

Here is the SQUAD for Sundowns:
GK
Jackson Mabokgwane

DF
Robyn Johannes

DF
Oscar Ntwagae

DF Robyn Johannes

DF
Shere Lekgothoane



MF
Brent Carelse

MF
Elias Ngwepe

MF
Manqoba Ngwenya

Fanyana Dhladhla

FW Patrick Apataki
FW
Tyren Arendse

Mr. Proffessor : 2008-04-18 11:43

Marc: 2008-04-18 11:39

hehe r u a shareholder?
Hehe yazi… u r making me laugh

Limit: 2008-04-18 11:56

Prof, U seem to be Happy since I told you We are dedicating our game against Al-Hilal to all the Chips fans. It is amazing what we SANDAWANAS are capable of doing......!!!!!!
"""""""DOWNS REPRESENT S.A SOCCER""""""""

Marc: 2008-04-18 12:07

Professor

When I say "Shareholder i mean Mr Motaung comments about the type of play that Chiefs play.

Prof a o itiri. You need help, Get on with the times.

Chiefs that i used to know
never struggled to be in Top 8,
Chiefs i used to know never struggled to beat teams like Thanda Royals,
Chiefs i used to know never struggled to play an entaintaining soccer.

This is not Chiefs that i know my friend. The Central Attacking Midfielder plaed entertaimg soccer.

Sibeko is a Disaster. Deal with it Prof.

SADDAM: 2008-04-18 12:09

Marc: 2008-04-18 12:07


Professor

When I say "Shareholder i mean Mr Motaung comments about the type of play that Chiefs play.

Prof a o itiri. You need help, Get on with the times.

Chiefs that i used to know
never struggled to be in Top 8,
Chiefs i used to know never struggled to beat teams like Thanda Royals,
Chiefs i used to know never struggled to play an entaintaining soccer.

This is not Chiefs that i know my friend. The Central Attacking Midfielder plaed entertaimg soccer.

Sibeko is a Disaster. Deal with it Prof.


U KNW SOCCER DUDE!!!!!

Marc: 2008-04-18 12:14

Prof:
In 2001/2002 Season

Since was it not the same whee chiefs failed o qualify for Top 8.

Professor a simple for you.
Is Chiefs currently doing well or struggling well?
Is the current performance of Chiefs acceptable to you?


If the answer are Yes or No. My advise find a new team to support.

Limit: 2008-04-18 12:16

DOWNS FANS ARE SMART.From Chiefs's perspective,we are privileged to be SANDAWANASSSSSS!!!!.It seems there is a LITTLE SUNDOWNS IN every citizen of this COUNTRY..All the comments posted here are more about DOWNS. Maybe it has to do with the fact that WE ARE SKILLED IN COMPUTERS and WELL INFORMED about SOCCER.

Marc: 2008-04-18 12:21

Saddam we need to be realistic. Mugabe has dominated Zim (that is History). currently Mugabe 's politival future looks dark. So is Chiefs.

Where are the D Khumalo, Ace, Kungoane, Young Mooki and others. The tradition of chiefs entainting football is being tinted.

History will never repeat itself. What did achieved in 10 years from now will be the same thing that Ria Ledwaba Achieved by bringing into PSL & destroying. That is a Fairytale.

Limit: 2008-04-18 12:22

PROF, I can see you wanna join SUNDOWNS. Please man WE DO NOT NEED YOUR KIND.
!!!!!!!!!!!Go to ZULU ROYALS!!!!!!!!!!
This is what I tell most Chiefs fans not only yourself. You do not have the genes and intellect of being a SANDAWANA!!!!!!

Marc: 2008-04-18 12:26

Sundowns has planned ahead and it living that plan

K Chiefs had in past planned ahead. The truth is that currently there is no plan in Chiefs since there is Management transformation. The boss has achieved what he wanted for his kids and he wnats them to enjoy the fruits.

While Mr Motsepe is empwering our black brothers. Dont tell me about him running away from tax. that bull, any way he is giving back to the community. BEE 4 life

SADDAM: 2008-04-18 12:39

GDYE EVERY 1 I'LL NT COMMENT TILL SUNDOWNS WIN NEDBANK CUP OR BACK TO TOP8!!!

SKY IS DA LIMIT!!!!!!!!!

THOSE WHO WANT TO SPEAK TO ME MST CALL 072 443 8012!!!!!!!!

WA-BI--SHA!!!!!

TBK: 2008-04-18 13:57

Mgekegeke are you crazy my man, whre the heel do you come up with that type of score line btw sundownd and FC CT. Nowonder why PIE-RATS does not win any trophy season in and season out regardless of the resources they have in place you MORON.

Blogstone: 2008-04-18 14:15

@Mgekegeke... It's a shallow indictment on your soccer expertise that you continue to regurgitate information from Wikipedia. It presents you as someone with little understanding of soccer...