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Former Bafana coach Clive Barker says the fault lies with Safa

Barker: Safa should have known the rules

Posted: 2011-10-10 09:46

Former Bafana Bafana coach Clive Barker has taken a swipe at Safa after the national team failed to qualify for the 2012 Africa Cup of Nations.

Bafana finished top of Group G on goal difference after playing to a goalless draw against Sierra Leone but, according to CAF rules, they miss out and Niger proceeds.

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With South Africa, Niger and the Leone Stars all finishing on nine points, it came down to head-to-head points instead, which sent Niger through.

Bafana coach Pitso Mosimane and Safa officials, including president Kirsten Nematandani, are disputing the CAF ruling, but Barker, who won the Nations Cup with the national team in 1996, says Safa should have known better.

"Most definitely Safa is to be blame; you can't blame the coach," he tells KickOff.com.

"They should have known the rules and made the coach aware of it. I can't live with the fact that we did not get the rules right.

"The majority of the country thought it would be on goal difference but they should have known the rules before."

Barker also laid some blame on keeper Itumeleng Khune for his delaying tactics during the last few minutes of the match, as he wasted time claiming to be injured, while a win would have sent Bafana through.

"That should have never happened. Khune is our number-one keeper and that was a below par performance from him. The players will have more respect for the game now that they have learnt a big lesson."

Barker, who is technical director at AmaZulu, also insists it is not right for Safa to launch an appeal, as the rules were already in place.

"Why are you appealing against the rules that were in place before the tournament started? Safa should have known the rules. I don't think it is right for them to appeal," he says.

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SisterP: 2011-10-10 10:11

Every dick and tom is trying to be clever now. Did you Barker know about this rule before this weekend or you are just trying to be clever like King. Khune got that behaviour from Chiefs. This rule is not the only rule, but one of the rules. SAFA is correct to appeal so that this can be cleared for once and for all.

Sol : 2011-10-10 10:15

Safa is ignorate n careless n they dt take their job serious.

EGUMENI@MP: 2011-10-10 10:16

have you guys visited the CAF site and looked at the log standing? bb is number 2 now and niger has the same GD with us but they should in actual fact have a -2 GD I suspect that mistake is the one that made CAF use the 14.1 rule, and that means SAFA has a strong case. just go and read there cafonline.com

da sylence: 2011-10-10 10:18

poor manegement @ SAFA ua only concerned with money matters eish re ya kae ma afrika?

deBuc: 2011-10-10 10:19

Remember Nigeria missed the 2006 World Cup against Angola on head to head? So this rule has been there for a very long time. The appeal is gonna be the waste of time.

RaphaeloRalph: 2011-10-10 10:20

Nematendani knows nothing about Football, He should be held responsible

There's a culture in South Africa of individuals who are incompetant to accrue influencial post on underhand tactics(scheeming against those competant) and not merit.

What is the football forum saying now that thier deployees are embarrassing the nation,

I move for the President to intervene...

Nematendani, Jordaan, Mazibuko, and The chiefs without the tribe nonkonyane should be recalled, sentenced to spend 6 months at robben island.

Sol : 2011-10-10 10:23

Wena Bongani cliver Barker is nt member of safa is nt his job to read the rules for fat cats. If he ws ceo mayb U ws goin to ask him dat Q.

LordJerry : 2011-10-10 10:27

The rule used by Caf is extremely
fair my fellow bloggers consider
this situation: lets say a group
has Nigeria, south africa, benin
and niger.
By looking at this group you will
notice that south africa is
disadvantaged as all 3 teams
excluding south africa are from
west africa so all of them are
familiar with the conditions of
each other.


Now nigeria beats benin and
niger home and away by big
scores as they are familiar with
those countries conditions and
they can have more support in
those countries than the home
countries. Bt we beat nigeria
home and away by marginal
scores and we win against benin
and niger at home.

This will make South Africa and
Nigeria equal on 12 points but
nigeria will have a better goal
difference as they won by big
scores. So the question caf will
ask is who is better between the
2. If you dont get it now then
you never will. Goals difference is an inferior way of separating teams finish and klaar.

salazani: 2011-10-10 10:29

South Africa are either bad losers or dangerously ignorant. This rule is not being applied for the first time and interestingly, South Africa qualified as best runners-up to the 2008 AFCON using the same rule. Then,like now, they celebrated even after going down to a Chris Katongo hattrick at home. Guys, learn to qualify fairly and cleanly. You had 90 minutes to beat Siera Leon. Its Siera Leon we are talking about, not some big gun like Ivory Coast or Ghana. Honestly, how do you play for a draw with Siera Leon at home? So you think if that team of yours had qualified, they would have done anything at the finals? Dont worry, you will play at the AFCON by hosting, as you are getting used to now!!!

salazani: 2011-10-10 10:30

South Africa are either bad losers or dangerously ignorant. This rule is not being applied for the first time and interestingly, South Africa qualified as best runners-up to the 2008 AFCON using the same rule. Then,like now, they celebrated even after going down to a Chris Katongo hattrick at home. Guys, learn to qualify fairly and cleanly. You had 90 minutes to beat Siera Leon. Its Siera Leon we are talking about, not some big gun like Ivory Coast or Ghana. Honestly, how do you play for a draw with Siera Leon at home? So you think if that team of yours had qualified, they would have done anything at the finals? Dont worry, you will play at the AFCON by hosting, as you are getting used to now!!!

SharpShooter: 2011-10-10 10:31

it's very unwise to blame CAF. the rules have been there from since qualifiers started. SAFA didn't bother themselves to read the rules and just assumed that 14.2 - goal difference would matter. it's true, nami it's the first i hear of such a rule (it's because i've never bothered myself with the rules).

SAFA is disorganised. When Nematandani took over, SA was told that the days of Mickey Mouse are over. Well they are over, it's now Minnie Mouse.

And it's a lie. UEFA uses the very same rule for the Euro 2012 qualifiers. So if it's used by EUFA it must definately been given the go ahead by FIFA. Visit the FIFA website and u'll see that no mention of this rule being off is mentioned. It's a universal rule, it's just that in some competitions goal difference is favoured over this 'new rule'.

The whites for a change are happy. At least this time nobody can blame it on apartheid.

Orior: 2011-10-10 10:31

"Why are you appealing against the rules that were in place before the tournament started? I'm with you on this Clive, we gonna appeal because of this useless Nematandani, he knows nothing about football, he should have told the coach not to play for a draw if he knew CAF rules... Nxa

sirnzo : 2011-10-10 10:32

Enough abt this now. Da next chapter is psl gonna stop games for this afcon in february? Y should we stop? I think only teams with 3 or more players must stop just like bfr

mavee@: 2011-10-10 10:35

@ SisterP:

stop being ignorant here and face the facts. SAFA had to k now all the rules and their appealing is just plain stupidity. rules are not made overnight hence if wee had a problem with the rules we should have contested them way before the qualifiers started.

@ EGUMENI@MP
please revisit the CAF website again and click on the link that say *how the group was determined* you will then have your answer.

we failed on our own to qualify and thats our own fault. lets stop blaming caf.

EGUMENI@MP: 2011-10-10 10:35

hey wena SAZALANI or salani what ever your name is, we talking about winning a group here and why is CAF giving Niger goals they did not score huh why is their GD not -2 on CAF site? can you tell south africa that since wena you know all?

bond: 2011-10-10 10:38

SAFA needs to swallow their pride and apologies to the nation...Barker is right they should have known better.

Ganadlha: 2011-10-10 10:40

What were u guys expecting?If you lead by a blind man u end up in the Mad.
Barker is right they should have known this Rules long ago.
Pitso-think is smart with his vison 2014.he must be sacked and nematandane too.i never liked that guy from the word go.
So SA want to disput the CAF rules?how patetic is that?nx

EGUMENI@MP: 2011-10-10 10:40

mavee@
I'm not blaming CAF man I'm just saying look at the log read the GF, GA and GD see how it has been switched around just so that Niger can be placed as group winners and come back to me. lol

Murenzu: 2011-10-10 10:41

@SisterP, no one knew the rules hence the whole country celebrated, but know we know the rules that runs the competition, we cant change them now when they're against us, SAFA should have been the one who knew the rules, it is a waste of time lodging a complaint cos the rules were not introduced the time CAF saw that Niger is losing but the rules were there long time ago, if Pitso wanted a win he could have went for a win even when he heard that Egypt is winning....we dont have a case here

S.A Only Goldstar: 2011-10-10 10:41

Guys we did`nt know the rules because thats not what we get paid to do,that`s what that **** nematandani and his moegoes @ safa get paid to do.the nation has every right to complain!i think we must appoint our own leaders to run our soccer.Khoza is the only man who can take us back on top africa.find me a better man and i`ll give you what i have in the bank(R302 012.55)LOL

galaxyofstars: 2011-10-10 10:44

Celebrating a draw and not qualify, PRICELESS.

CAF Rule 14.1: 2011-10-10 10:44

Spot on Clive.

Jordan, Kirsten Nematandani and Co. you have failed us give way for Khoza, Motaung and Co.

Gucci Man: 2011-10-10 10:48

It is really disappointing that a country that was hosting and playing in 2010 WC failed to qualify for Africa Nations Cup .
I cannot blame only Pitso or the boys ….BUT ….I think our SAFA and lousy media e.t.c should have known better .

I cannot believe that we would participate in this tournament without reading and understanding these rules created by this thoughtless CAF.
SAFA……you dropped the ball once again .

Our media is always busy searching inconsequential stories , why you guys didn’t do a research and learn about such rules and publish it like you always publish Kenny Kunene, Julias Malema stories ?
You’re lousy……Nxaa

Mara bafwethu ……how do you stay on top of the table/log and don’t qualify ?
I guess we’ll understand as time goes on…..why our continent is so poor , it’s because of these decisions taken by our uneducated leaders that take us(Africa) backwards.

galaxyofstars: 2011-10-10 10:48

Pitso : Did we qualify?

Marks Maponyane (SABC): Coach you have qualified.

Supersport must be laughing so am I.

Ganadlha: 2011-10-10 10:49

Guys if u can read that CAF rule 14.1 you will understand excatly why SA was drop.
If the 3 x teams finish on same points goals average is not considered.They form their 3 x mini league and that mini league gives us 5points,Niger6 & SL5.Niger beat us & SL.Which gave them 6points?us SL we beat Niger but draw our home n away matches and that give both of us 5points.So we are out.This is CAF not PSL rules.

Gucci Man: 2011-10-10 10:52

I’m still confused ……………rules or whatever…how possible is that a team that is below BB qualifies and we remain ?
This is actually stupid and honestly unfair

Iyang’nyanyisa lento ….

lsramakuwela: 2011-10-10 10:52

@lordjerry..my man i get wat u saying..we only complaining now that we are in this situation...imagine we in the same group with lesotho,madagascar, and benin..we can score many goals against this southren afran team..bt wat abt benin?

Donald Duck: 2011-10-10 10:53

Eish ppl r always looking 4scape goats. Nematandani is the president of SAFA, it's not his job 2go and read caf rules. There is a legal and compliance department that has a general manager and the Safa technical comitee. those r de ppl u should b blaming. Infact de coach and players should take de blame 4not winning @home.

Everything u want Kirsten 2resign, stop being rediculous unless u dont know how a cooporate company is run. Was Kirsten coaching de team?? is he part of the technical support staff of the team? there are people tasked with that and they should answer 2Kirsten why dey didn't do their jobs. This backward mentality of always wanting ppl 2 resign is very stupid. U guys r de kind of ppl when there is no water in ur house u want Zuma 2resign instead of going 2ur municipal manager

mavee@: 2011-10-10 10:55

@ EGUMENI@MP

i saw what u mean, Niger's goal difference should be -2. there you are correct but caf's rules state that if 2 or more teams finish with the same number of points then head to head among those teams in question will determine who qualifies or not. so its not about goal difference but head to head.

Gucci Man: 2011-10-10 10:58

galaxyofstars: 2011-10-10 10:48 [ Report ]

My outie , Supersport is also included in this dissapointing message.

On Saturday Channel 200/Supersports Blitz: they posted an update that goes like this..."BAFANA BAFANA have qualified for Africa Nations Cup"

I guess we were all unaware of this "French rule"

Khosi Fever: 2011-10-10 10:58

SAFA complains even when they r 2 blame...rules r rules...they were in black and white before the qualifiers even began...its like sighning a contract without reading it...stupid mistake...live nd learn...dnt live nd complain

mavee@: 2011-10-10 10:59

@ EGUMENI@MP

you can also look at group 1. mali and cape verde have the same number of points. even though mali have a better goal difference its not the reason they qualified. they qualified because they beat carpe verde 3 nil only for cape verde to beat them 1 nil on the return fixture. i repeat again when points are equal its not goals that determine who goes through, but the head to head.

FISTOS: 2011-10-10 11:00

agg i blame these cows(players)who took part in this game,how can you not win at home?at home,aggg man come on guys these players are taking us for granted or may be we just have to accept that we not good enough,
the next thing the celebrate a draw like that,and that should be the moemish of the decade or lifetime moemish,

tonyMQ: 2011-10-10 11:01

Terms and Conditions apply, this is what happen when you do not read the fine print. Most South Africans do that,but such a big organisation with all the resources,it's an embarassment. I am wondering how many other clouses they do not understand.

As for Pitso and his players on the field on the day, the less said the better. I hope this is a lesson to be learnt for many years to come. I always defends Pitso but I have realised that he is also arrogant like all the dudes that earn a lot for nothing.

Mkhize : 2011-10-10 11:02

I really dnt thnk khune is 2 b blamed ,we da knowledge we had he could hv done whtever it takes 2 waist tym n we qualify.2ndly ths countries also gv us such bad treatments.so we shld just b angels, i dnt thnk so !

Mash-do : 2011-10-10 11:02

Wena barker go back to the hole u were hiding in cos u didnt know about this rule either!...u are attacking khune and safa but u protecting the useless pitso who was suppose to win the game not play for a draw!...the istruction came from the coach thats y he didnt do anything about it...khune did his best to help bafana get the draw wich the coach wanted badly!...if pitso didnt tell the players to slow the game down khune wouldnt have done that!...wena barker u a fomer coach did u know about this rule?...

TP : 2011-10-10 11:03

If there is rules in place what's the big issue?These boys should have won this game finish & klaar.U can't play for a draw & expect miracles.

tpaz: 2011-10-10 11:03

@Lord Jerry , thank you for explaining why the rule is there.

Legend : 2011-10-10 11:03

U media ppl together with SAFA n Pitso continue 2 mislead us by saying Bafana finished on top of de group via goal deference. Dat is incorrect cos de rules say 1st head 2 head is considered b4 goal deference n cos Niger has a better head 2 head record against both BB n SL dey finished on top of de group not our BB, goal deference only cums into consideration if teams cannot be separated on head 2 head. Is dat difficult 4 u 2 understand?

For once media be responsible n stop telling us nonsense bt correct facts u lousy idiots mxm...

pk kgags : 2011-10-10 11:05

Barker is right Pitso, his assistants, SAFA president nd his crew must go

Nipsy: 2011-10-10 11:05

http://www.cafonline.com/competition/african-cup-of-nations_2012/groups

This is lie Niger has -2 goal difference not 2. We can complain all we want but CAF is useless. I will never blame SAFA like Barker, FIFA is the motherbody and all the soccer rules should be in par with FIFA rules. How can I run my company with my rules which are considered illegally in South Africa while operating in SA? My company rules should be in par with the constitution of the country.

You can ask anyone in the world to make a league table they will never add block for useless rules on a table but block for GF, GA and GD will always be there. This is daylight robbery from CAF and I will never blame SAFA for that instead they should learn from this.

Head to Head SA is better than Niger, Head to head SA is better than Sierra Leone so no futher justification is needed for CAF cheating. I am die hard fan of GD approach and not a fan of useless rules, teams should be encouraged to score goals not to play only for a win if we are to watch beautiful soccer.

Gucci Man: 2011-10-10 11:06

Clive Barker : You’re stupid and I can see that you haven’t changed
Just to single out Khune …that shows you that you’re still lousy and inconsiderate . It’s a shame that such comments are actually coming from someone who once coached our national team.

If it wasn’t because of this stupid rule would…. you still be mentioning Khune ? I don’t think so
I admit that delaying tactics are not fair in football but Khune was trying to do was to save his country and he did that but because we didn’t qualify because of this stupid rule…..now some “retarded ghosts” are posting lousy comments and thinking they sound intelligent…..

Nxaaa

Disco: 2011-10-10 11:07

Football fans and its administrators must learn the rules of the game they love and stop complaining. How do you expect them to consider tournament rules when they don’t even understand simple rules that govern their games each weekend? I have seen fans in this forum and others relying on Mr Ndaba to clarify rules; what does that tell you?

The only thing we good at is to call each other names; call players names; brag about winning etc. whilst we don’t even know the game we claim to love.

Remember when Siyabonga Nkosi scored from a direct free kick while playing for Chiefs only for the ref to disregard the goal because players either ignored or didn’t understand the referee’s sign which indicated an Indirect Kick instead?

This doesn’t only come to the rules of the game but includes philosophies used in this game; systems and roles of players in this game; etc.

South Africans, we like to complain, finish and klaar.

mophulushi: 2011-10-10 11:08

defending strategy kill us, i appreciate what caf did 4 us. four central midfielders, one striker then u think we gonna make it.we have 4 magnificent defenders,[tollgates, superclues,stoprubbish, stopnonsense] then what is the use

EGUMENI@MP: 2011-10-10 11:13

well in that case my bro this rules are kak period group winner is group winner

Disco: 2011-10-10 11:14

Football fans and its administrators must learn the rules of the game they love and stop complaining. How do you expect them to consider tournament rules when they don’t even understand simple rules that govern their games each weekend? I have seen fans in this forum and others relying on Mr Ndaba to clarify rules; what does that tell you?

The only thing we good at is to call each other names; call players names; brag about winning etc. whilst we don’t even know the game we claim to love.

Remember when Siyabonga Nkosi scored from a direct free kick while playing for Chiefs only for the ref to disregard the goal because players either ignored or didn’t understand the referee’s sign which indicated an Indirect Kick instead?

This doesn’t only come to the rules of the game but includes philosophies used in this game; systems and roles of players in this game; etc.

South Africans, we like to complain, finish and klaar.

panki wa lekhosi: 2011-10-10 11:17

How many times must you South Africans learn that the whole of Africa hate you? How many must you kiss some African butt to be recognised as Africans. Africa hate South Africa. North African states failed themselves with constant wars and corruption and now they take their frustration on SA cause they want to succeed and indeed they do. Most African countries messed up their own now they envy South Africa . They are jealous of South Africa . These Africans will remain dull and war mongers for many years to come. I hope South Africa stops to call these people "Our African Brothers " cause there is nothing brotherly. South Africa should not care anymore cause these countries take South African kind for weakness. South African should stop aligning itself with Mediocricy. Africa hates South Africa.

Zosha: 2011-10-10 11:33

Blame it on Khune. This so-called South Africa's number one wasted so much time time, yet Bafana could have scored who knows? Why is Khune allowed to do such stunts? Is it what they teach at Chiefs?

kksonuk: 2011-10-10 11:34

I ALWAYS SAY STUPID COMMENTS HERE.. AND I GUESS I AM NOT GOING TO BE DIFFERENT AGAIN. CAN SOMEONE LOOK AT THIS:
http://www.cafonline.com/competition/african-cup-of-nations_2012/groups

Niger is suppose to have a negative (-1) goal difference.. but they have +ve (+2)... (eye brows raised)...
Rule no. 14.1 14.1 Greater number of points obtained in the matches between the concerned teams;
Taken from: http://www.cafonline.com/competition/african-cup-of-nations_2012/news/11648-how-group-g-was-determined.html.

Now if one look at the standings and results, South Africa beat Niger 2-0 at home... Then Niger beat South Africa 1-2 in Niger

Goals scored between the two teams: South Africa 3, Niger 2
Points between the two teams: South Africa 3, Niger 3
Away goals between the two teams: South Africa 1, Niger 0
Goal difference between the two teams: South Africa 1, Niger 0

Who qualifies???

kagiso : 2011-10-10 11:34

bafana hve themselve 2 blame u cnt aim 4 a draw as a host. Dis rule has alwys bn there ever since last world cup qualifier it was thr. the way bafana players celebrate 4 failing 2 qualify dats is a momish of the year. Its a embarassng dat the whole team, even safa thy did not know abt the rule. I agree wit a white man whn he say if u wat 2 hid someting 4 a black person put it in writting. Dnt wari guys u'll b watch & supportng Zebras.

kksonuk: 2011-10-10 11:37

I ALWAYS SAY STUPID COMMENTS HERE.. AND I GUESS I AM NOT GOING TO BE DIFFERENT AGAIN. CAN SOMEONE LOOK AT THIS:
http://www.cafonline.com/competition/african-cup-of-nations_2012/groups

Niger is suppose to have a negative (-1) goal difference.. but they have +ve (+2)... (eye brows raised)...
Rule no. 14.1 14.1 Greater number of points obtained in the matches between the concerned teams;
Taken from: http://www.cafonline.com/competition/african-cup-of-nations_2012/news/11648-how-group-g-was-determined.html.

Now if one look at the standings and results, South Africa beat Niger 2-0 at home... Then Niger beat South Africa 1-2 in Niger

Goals scored between the two teams: South Africa 3, Niger 2
Points between the two teams: South Africa 3, Niger 3
Away goals between the two teams: South Africa 1, Niger 0
Goal difference between the two teams: South Africa 1, Niger 0

Who qualifies???

Rudzani: 2011-10-10 11:37

CAN some one with a sober mind not political or drunk mind please answer me here.

1. was the rule drafted on saturday?
2. how do an international coach go to the field not knowing the rules?
3.did khune did that for himself or was he asked to do so? when moneeb did that for rats did sunflops not complain?
4.on friday did we not wish egypt to beat niger? did we not wish bafana to beat seralione? did that happen?
5. if answer to number is yes, yes, yes, so did we qualify.

i know this question will prove some of you are just empty tins making lot of noise. The fact of the matter is pitso is confuse just like rats supporters......who dont know who to blame. Just leave safa out of this, leave the players out of this, the coach what he wanted out of this game and my last question would be" was bafana tactics in the ast 20 minutes or so intending for a win or draw?

kksonuk: 2011-10-10 11:39

I ALWAYS SAY STUPID COMMENTS HERE.. AND I GUESS I AM NOT GOING TO BE DIFFERENT AGAIN. CAN SOMEONE LOOK AT THIS:
http://www.cafonline.com/competition/african-cup-of-nations_2012/groups

Niger is suppose to have a negative (-1) goal difference.. but they have +ve (+2)... (eye brows raised)...
Rule no. 14.1 14.1 Greater number of points obtained in the matches between the concerned teams;
Taken from: http://www.cafonline.com/competition/african-cup-of-nations_2012/news/11648-how-group-g-was-determined.html.

Now if one look at the standings and results, South Africa beat Niger 2-0 at home... Then Niger beat South Africa 1-2 in Niger

Goals scored between the two teams: South Africa 3, Niger 2
Points between the two teams: South Africa 3, Niger 3
Away goals between the two teams: South Africa 1, Niger 0
Goal difference between the two teams: South Africa 1, Niger 0

Who qualifies???

Ayanda: 2011-10-10 11:42

"14.1 Greater number of points obtained in the matches between the concernedteams;

Therefore, in application of rule 14.1 CAF has considered only results of matches between the concerned teams, i.e. Niger, South Africa and Sierra Leone (discounting Egypt as the bottom team with 5 points - hence not concerned anymore), resulting in the following ranking based on 4 matches played by each teams concerned:
- Niger: 6 points
- South Africa : 5 points
- Sierra Leone : 5 points."

THIS, I WOULD ALSO CALL DAY LIGHT ROBBERY! SINCE WHEN IS THIS 'REDUCED GROUP' STAGES? MY PERSONAL TAKE ON THIS, IT'S MANIPULATION OF RULE AND MATH JUST TO SPITE MZANSI! WE ALL KNOW THEY DON'T LIKE SA THOSE CAF IDIOTS! THIS BASICALLY MEANS, INCLUDING EGYPT (WHICH FORMS PART OF THE GROUP I MIGHT ADD)IN THE RULES AND MATH FAVOURS SA BUT DISCOUNTING THE PHAROES IS AT OUR DISADVANTAGE.

THAT LEONE CAPTAIN WAS SO BITTER, AFTER THE GAME HE SAID SA DON'T DESERVE GOING TO THE AFCON...AS IF BONA THEY DESERVE. IF THEY WERE SO GOOD, THEY SHOULD HAVE BEATEN US IN THEIR HOME GAME. I'M TIRED OF CAF NALEK@K@ BATENZAYO. WE SUPPOSE TO BE GROWING AS A NATION...YET THEY KILLING US AS CLUB AND NATIONAL LEVEL.

I'M SUNDOWNS YES, BUT NOW I'M BEGINNING TO SEE WHY CHIEFS DECIDED NOT TO GIVE A 5UCK ABOUT THESE AFRICAN COMPETITIONS. IF I HAD THINGS MY WAY, I WOULD EXCLUDE ALL AFRICAN PLAYERS FROM MY DOMESTIC LEAGUE AND HIRE SOUTH AMERICANS AND OTHER CONTINENTS.

MABOKUNYA MAAN...

Tiri: 2011-10-10 11:45

Actually I think Sierra Leon can also appeal against Khune's time wasting it costed them all the time they needed in injury time to wrap up the match . As for our own Bafa bafana they thought we bought tickets to see rolling bodies in the field no we bought the tickets to watch soccer action not Generations or Scandal or Zone 14 on Saturday evening. Sierra Leon can also protest against the time wasting we all knew it was time wasting even our TV commentators on SABC 1 said Khune is a star for acting better than soccer , they were praising him during the deing minutes of the game yet he was busy brewing the moomish of the year. where is the fair play we were asking Egypt to show how did we show that ourselves, Egypt did it fo us and they have their tails up and we are busy playing coward we are worse than Egypt who field the Olympics team because it played with purpose and did us a big favor than the original Pharaohs who were useless. Sierra Leon must appeal because they had a chance as well and tehy wanted to seize it but Khune denied them, now he was doing it for Niger he needs to be investigated like those Asia gate guys.

sam : 2011-10-10 11:48

i had alwys bn a fan 4 bafana bafana, khune is nt 2 blame, assuming dat this rule is nt in use & bafana bafana qualified, am telling u all praise would b 2 khune, he would b a hero. Blame the coach, he cnt aim 4 a draw as a host. Khune gave him the draw he wantd. As a serious competitor neva ever aim 4 a draw even if u had already qualified dnt ever do dat. U could see in the second half dat all that thy wantd was a draw, thr neva wantd a win, so cum 2012, thr wil b glued 2 their t.v supporng neighbouring countries, Zambia & Botswana. I feel sori 4 u guys, black stars 4 life.

dvd : 2011-10-10 11:49

I am sure that grandpa baker said loud an clear that safa leadership is to be blamed.so the leadership is misleading us.so those khunes they learn bad attitude from the leadership.lets give where it is due,than we will succeed.
Phansi nge safa,safa nge safa

Undisputed Double-Trebble Champ Mopheme: 2011-10-10 11:50

kksonuk: 2011-10-10 11:39

Goals scored between the two teams: South Africa 3, Niger 2
Points between the two teams: South Africa 3, Niger 3
Away goals between the two teams: South Africa 1, Niger 0
Goal difference between the two teams: South Africa 1, Niger 0

Who qualifies???
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My friend, I think you are slightly missing the point here as you only calculate the points between South Africa and Niger. You should also consider Sierra Leone as they are also the concerned team..!!

Reginald Sithole : 2011-10-10 11:50

UEFA applies the same rules used by CAF. In Europe the rules have been in effect since 2008 qualifiers. SAFA and the Bafana technical team should have known.

Champ Mriyo (Trebble kings of SA): 2011-10-10 11:51

This rule is fair n also encourages teams 2 play 4 a win not the tactics that sister Khune was using.In this case a team cant just go play draws always n it encourages teams 2 win their home games n dats wat Niger did.

Legend : 2011-10-10 11:53

@Kakay

Ur ****ysis r very correct bt u missing 1 important point here, de rule say "between teams concerned" so in dis case its not only BB n Niger, Siera Leone is also included as dey finish on equal points with BB n Niger all on 9pts, so de head 2 head includes SL as well, as a result Niger tops both BB n SL with 6pts vis a vis BB n SL both on 5pts.

Champ Mriyo (Trebble kings of SA): 2011-10-10 11:53

Spain's La liga is also using this rule,if Barca n Madrid finish on same points then they look at head 2 head first b4 the goal difference.

Undisputed Double-Trebble Champ Mopheme: 2011-10-10 11:54

Khune is also to be blamed it's true, no need to protect his foolish antics, but my point is he is just wet behind the ears hence I believe SAFA and Pitso are to be blamed for failing to learn the rules of the competition..!!

Benjamin: 2011-10-10 11:55

Apparently some SABC staffer told our technical team we qualified.

Gucci Man: 2011-10-10 11:58

South Africa 6 2 3 1 4 2 9
Sierra Leone 6 2 3 1 5 5 9
Niger 6 3 0 3 6 8 9
Egypt 6 1 2 3 5 5 5

Gucci Man: 2011-10-10 11:59

How possible that a team that is on top of the table doesn't qualify ?
This is rubbish rule

South Africa 6 2 3 1 4 2 9
Sierra Leone 6 2 3 1 5 5 9
Niger 6 3 0 3 6 8 9
Egypt 6 1 2 3 5 5 5

qude : 2011-10-10 12:01

Y the draw in the first place. Playing @ home Pisto plz go Sundowns is waiting 4 u plz go

KaMashobana: 2011-10-10 12:01

Some ppl are just exposing serious ignorance about the game of football. These rules were adopted for this particular tournament and 'accepted' by all Associations concerned. Caf does not conduct a survey as to whether Associations like the rules or not. Therefore by participating in that tournament, all associations/federations are bound by the rules.

Its a pit Safa and Pitso didnt read the rules and are now appealing! What an embarrassment for the nation.Therefore for someone to say a rule that has been used in the past, without any problems is unfair, not universal or wrong is foolish. Lets just accept that when it comes to 'acting' we are tops but in football, we have a long way to go.

FifaDotCom: 2011-10-10 12:03

We didn’t do enough on the field to qualify and that is the bottom line however this doesn’t change the fact that this should be considered after GD is applied and if the teams are still tied then whoever scored most goals go through then only after that apply this rule. Why is CAF doing it the other way round. Secondly we must give up the rights to host the 2013 games and let someone take that responsibility so that we too go through the qualifying phase of that competition and qualify not always handed a free ticket to participate

kksonuk: 2011-10-10 12:05

Got it....

Now i can say that SAFA, CAF and FIFA must fine Khune for unprofessional behavior.... My Dad who is 70 years of age was supprised how an injured player was dancing immediately after the game... As a result, his antics but (with instructions from the bench for sure)costed the nation

How did Pitso plan to play a draw (despite all rules)????
The question raised was:... Continuation of what? (asked when Pitso was to be appointed)... I can answer:... continuation of failure... Pitso learned from Dumitru, Pareira, Santana and Pareira (again)... all never made it at/for AFCON/Wold cup... Again my bad!!

Donald Duck: 2011-10-10 12:06

When it comes to rules, south african we r just plain dumb. I remember a game of cricket in de world cup interupted by rain, we needed 1 run 2qualify 4de next round and de coach told de batsmen 2block de ball as we had already qualified. After de game while celebrating de match commissioner came and said we lost by 1run beacuse we mis-calculated. So i am not suprise by dis kaos yet again

The Sticknbkid: 2011-10-10 12:07

Bottom line is, NO ONE knew the rules, therefore, everyone played this one out based on assumptions hence the celebration after the game. Few of us blamed Khune but now he's to blame. Even Kickoff.com had permutations which never catered for this case. Fellow South Africans, just let it go. I blame the person who communicated the news to the players that Niger is losing because that's when players started to show no desire for winning the match.

Tshwane Derby: 2011-10-10 12:10

I'm surprised that even Kickoff never knew about this rule follow this link and read on how they mislead the whole RSA about how we will qualify, http://www.kickoff.com/news/24751/how-south-africa-could-qualify-for-the-2012-africa-cup-of-nations.php

I'm hugely disappointed by SAFA and Media

salazani: 2011-10-10 12:16

@Panki, you are a real punk. You are so dull that you think Africa to the north of your country hate you!!!Guess you ignorance is not only on football but on many other matters including your history. If we hated you, would we have sustained all the bombings your boer colonisers rained on our "poor countries"? Our roads, bridges buildings were bombed for us to just stop hosting your heroes. Find out from your parents about Chikumbi, Kamwala Staff college, Chelstone which where bombed by you countrymen to beat us into submission. Its unfortunate for you to claim Africa envy South Africa. What is there to envy anyway in those slums of yours where we know a majority of you hail from!

Svai: 2011-10-10 12:19

Pitso had no obligation to be the only one who knows the rules. In other countries the team manager will be the one concerned with these things. What would be the team manager's job if coaches concerned themselves with rules? Having said that I am surprised that none of us knew the rules. I mean the local journalists, officials, referees (some of them are CAF referees) and us the public. Guys we are also as guilty because we should have known the rules of the competition. How do you go watch a game when you have no clue what's going on? Why was it that not a single South African knew the rules? Did Barker as a former coach know about this rule. If yes, why didn't he alert Bafana-Bafana? If not, it means we have been playing in this competition all along without knowing the rules... and we have played in this competition since 1996. Every Jack and Jill will now pretend to have known the rules when they were not. We as a country have embarrassed ourselves in front of the inept CAF officials. What does it say about us?

gideon h. ndou: 2011-10-10 12:21

safa is being run lyk a spaza shop...the likes of Nematandane are only concerned with feathering their nests and they are oblivious to the fact that their greed will some day catch up with them. How do you explain saturday's embarrassment??? bafana were supposed to fight for a win but due to the fact that safa was in the shadow as regards the rules of the tournament they thought a draw would book them a place in next year's tournament. As for Khune i think he should be rested... josephs deserves to be our first goalie but because of his skin color he is living in khune's shadow.....

Svai: 2011-10-10 12:25

The Sticknbkid: 2011-10-10 12:07,

You are wrong to assume that "no one blamed Khune before we knew". I blamed him for displaying that unsportsmanlike behaviour. I know this is how the other keepers do it in Africa but I expected more professionalism from us as South Africans. The other thing we forget to mention is that instead of adding five minutes as instructed by the fourth official, the ref. added 2 minutes which peeved the Sierra Leon players. Because we thought it was to our advantage then we did not mind... now I feel he cheated both us and Sierra Leon. By the way even Sierra Leone didn't know the rules because they thought we had qualified. Talk of ignorant nations.

lindio: 2011-10-10 12:34

How can CAF amend rules after the qualification games started?
Please read:
Chapter 48
Adoption and Implementation of the Regulations
Article 115
The present Regulations have been adopted by the Executive Committee
of CAF on 29th of January 2011, and shall come into force immediately.
The President The General Secretary a.i
Issa HAYATOU Hicham El Amrani

Gazlam: 2011-10-10 12:39

Of course ppl will say this or that maar oksalayo sum 1 MUST read tornament rules and explain them.
PDV stepped down after losing to Aussies in soccer you can never hear of that.SAFA and Pitso must just resign.

Gazlam: 2011-10-10 12:45

Fact is South Africans we are sooo arrogant and complacent. We want 2 claim what we dont have. Sum 1 thought we were entitled to qualify even if he plans for a draw. Until we lose to Botswana we will not know we are just another team with loads of money but no talent.

Bhaka4life aka Prinz (2 x Treble Champ): 2011-10-10 12:46

It serves serves us right, games are not won on the board room but the field of play and fairly so. All our number ones let the nation down and they should stick their head between their legs in shame for embarrassing the nation.
President of Safa(Moegoe) and Co:(1).Ignorance of the Rules and (2).Unwarranted Appeal
The Coach(Moegoe):(1).Ignorance of the Rules and (2)Defensive strategy at home of which he admitted.
(3)The Keeper(Moegoe of the Year): Need I say more, not sure whether these outstanding acting talents which are irrelevant in soccer are taught at club level or national level.
(4).Captain and Co(Moegoes by Association): Spending our taxpayers money practising an embarrassing victory dance than scoring goals.

The Rules are Clear and must be respected and SAFA is no exception, they must just admit that they fcked up and step down:

http://www.cafonline.com/competition/african-cup-of-nations_2012/news/11648-how-group-g-was-determined.html

sidney: 2011-10-10 12:49

Correct Barker.d top brass of safa including dat dude called matandane shud have known the caf rules.Thnks for their transformation of football we r out,they must also quit cos they are clueless.They idiots..

sydney

TP : 2011-10-10 12:50

B4 we dwell 2much on this so called rule,maybe we need to check when was this rule started.My little knowledge tells me that the decesion was made by all members of Caf/including Safa.So whoever went there that time should have remembered this & advice accordingly unless their interests were somewhere else.Kickoff pls let us know when was this rule voted in.Its nice to attend Caf meetings & getting the perks & going to all this trips.Started from now Safa must introduce a log book for all the important meetings they attend so that even the new office members can go back to it for clarity.Kickoff change the element of this story by finding out when the rule was implemented & who was at Safa leadership.

KaMashobana: 2011-10-10 12:54

Svai:

Even if we were given those 2 minutes or the whole night for that matter, we wld not have scored. Why? The answer is simple, we wanted a draw. But at least half of that time we would have had good entainment from that 'comedian' by the name of Khune.Sies!!!!!!!!!

DR/PHD: 2011-10-10 13:02

According to CAF Regulations of Cup of Nations that were amended just after the competetion has commenced with immediate effect enforcement of these new clause.2011/01/29 yet the competetion has long started.How so?

It tells you a lot about CAF,disorginised,late implementation of rules.From where these rules are derived from?
SAFA legal team should be in a position to question the late implementation of the rules after the competetion has started.
Under no circumstance should one engage late rule implementation after the competetion has started,probably in West Africa rules changes when one think of a new rule.
South Africa should not give up on this matter.
Refer to the given regulation and question how and why the change after the competetion has started?

regards
Doctor Mkhize

Bhaka4life aka Prinz (2 x Treble Champ): 2011-10-10 13:06

Truth be told , Knune's actions alone may have caused us a slot in AFCON 2012.His secong round of shenanigans happend when South Africa had a throw in in the S Loene half. He is simply an embarrassment together with whoever who told him to do that.

As a South African, when Khunes was up to those shenanigans, I was extremely embarrassed, it felt like we as South Africans are cheats and worse it was so clear on the national broadcaster that he was cheating with his body language and signs.More embarrasing when the referee blew the final whistle it was thought was to our advantage, then celebrations and poetic justice prevailed, we didnt qualify, damn time wasting tactics, defensive approach at home and more....Soccer101, matches are won by goals nor appeals....

We can't condone that even if it was in our advantage, no matter how you wanna look at it, we should be better than that and set an example of Fair Play in Africa.

Yellow 4ever and Beyond: 2011-10-10 13:07

lousy south africans, afcon is ran by caf, nt fifa. their rule is wat goes ok. its quite simple rily, in case of teams tied on equal points, a mini league is used btwn the concerned teams nt goal difference. gt it mini league btwn concerned teams nt goal differrence

The Ghost: 2011-10-10 13:16

You see now why mediocrity is dangerous? We celebrated that draw in Egypt when really we should have won, we celebrated that draw on Saturday when we should have gone all out for a win; a winning mentality and approach to EVERY single game would have solved a lot of heartache ... now look. After all this drama can we honestly look at ourselves in the mirror and say we deserve to be in the 2012 AFCON? Really! Look no further than our neighbors Botswana they made sure to win at all costs and thus were riding the crest long before this thing was over.

ntru : 2011-10-10 13:26

I want pitso head for our low class performance.he didn't go out ther 4 a win,he went 4 a draw!our so caled no 10 jersey was no we're to be seen thru out the game.our mphela was out of form even tho he didn't hav any suport.I must say gaxa was outstanding tho.as a team we wer poor and we dnt deserve to go through to the afcon.we need to start over and build a team to be reckoned with.

bongstaM: 2011-10-10 13:27

SisterP are you an idiot like Pitso?? Rules have been there for ever but the Coach did not know them!! Nothing to clear up!!Rules are rules!!!SAFA making bigger idiots of themselves now!!

thabani1980: 2011-10-10 13:37

Sorry Khune. You are a soccer player, yet you don't understand the rules. This rule was put in place some years back. If you remember in 2006 world cup, Angola went to the world cup ahead of Nigeria because of that same rule and Nigeria never complained. Check that group again. Angola had a goal difference of +6 yet Nigeria had a goal difference of +14. The head to head results were as follows between the concerned teams.Angola 1-0 Nigeria and Nigeria 1-1 Angola. Angola had 4 pts while Nigeria had 1. It didn't matter that nigeria had a better goal difference by far. That the rule Khume, Pitso, Nematandani and other.

Group 4
Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts
Angola 10 6 3 1 12 6 +6 21
Nigeria 10 6 3 1 21 7 +14 21
Zimbabwe 10 4 3 3 13 14 −1 15
Gabon 10 2 4 4 11 13 −2 10
Algeria 10 1 5 4 8 15 −7 8
Rwanda 10 1 2 7 6 16 −10 5

Good luck SAFA for you appeal, but you won't win this case.

Also note that the same rule is applied for the Euro 2012 as well. So we can't cry now.

Anti VV n PITSO 4lyf: 2011-10-10 13:37

http://www.cafonline.com/competition/african-cup-of-nations_2012/news/11648-how-group-g-was-determined.html

if lento yabalwa long time before the start of the qualifies why then do we still cry... we lost we lost... qha!

Jack Sparrow(captain of the ship): 2011-10-10 13:43

Please people pitso has said it all

Mosimane says: "We don’t know if we are going or coming......now there you have it let's move on,please people.Pitso has confirmed that they are confused.

PIRATES IS NOT A CLUB BUT A RELIGION

THE REAL MR T

Prophethope: 2011-10-10 14:05

SAFA is in the wrong here not the players

http://bitly.com/contracts4blacklisted

KaMashobana: 2011-10-10 14:30

@thabani: Thanx for the example, so let FOOLS continue to blame Caf for our own short comings. Rules will not be relaxed so that Mzansi qualifies. Nemathandni and his gang are just plain stupid.

The Arm chair Critic: 2011-10-10 14:42

@ salazani: 2011-10-10 10:29 [ Report ]

its good to see that you are applying actual happenings to this issue.

Thats a good example and perhaps the more reason for all those who are saying they have beenn robbed by caf to shut up cuz this whole saga is just embarassing to say the least.....

tulani: 2011-10-10 15:28

Seems we are failing in everything, yesterday it was Bafana unbroadcated MATCH, NOW is CARELESSNESS for not Reading the Rule ofwhich is there. our officials busy eating the money. they pretending when they are seeking the job promising to do everything.

Borangoma: 2011-10-10 15:39

South Africa has a literacy rate of 88%, well above Niger's 28.7%, Sierra Leone's 38% or Egypt's 66.4% but still, they failed to read the rules and were baffled when they were told they had missed out on the tournament. South Africa started off confused, then irate, then despairing and then just plain spoilt brat loser-ish when they decided to appeal to CAF.

sidney: 2011-10-10 15:55

Eish!matandane,shoes,chief and their chomies at safa must do the hounorable thing they must just resigned please.....The continent is laughing at us.rules are there in fine print for them to read.Sports Minister must book this dudes in Abet class to learn to read.As for Pitso must resigned and players booked in military camp for failing the nation.

moses : 2011-10-10 15:59

i was nt suprised as BB, were celebratng afta a draw. Thy are used 2 it, thy drew with Egpyt in Cairo & celebrated. In the world cup thy drew with Mexico & celebrated. Now thy drew wit SLeone & celebrate. even the coach was celebrating. Thy tink a draw is a win. U'll neva win a competiton if u are alwys happy abt a draw. I tink the same rule should b introduced 2 our PSL, so dat teams can take every game seriously & 2 stop celebratng draws, cauz draws wil catch with the in the end, as this has happned 2 BB, 4 celebrating draws.. A draw nowdays its lyk a lose.

LordD1: 2011-10-10 16:07

SAFA Should have indeed done their reseach properly to inform MR JINGLES who obviously didnt do his homework either, or perhaps Jingles was too busy rehearsing on the dance with the boys

yebo : 2011-10-10 16:12

if u want 2 hide something 4 a black person put it in writing. Thy neva read, thy are lazy 2 read. The rule has bn thr since 2006. The same rule dat favoured Angola against Nigeria 2 qualify for 2006 world cup. Safa stop wasting ur time, u dnt hve a case, are u not embarassed enough already u want more. The whole continent is laughing at us, plis withdraw ur appeal, no prosepects of success.

Mnyango: 2011-10-10 16:28

I am not disappointed at all. As South Africans we are ignorant, especially us African people! Whether it's politics, economy, sports, anything..., we have inferior IQ. So, let's blame our low IQ. Case closed.

nna \'me\' : 2011-10-10 16:48

dnt wari guys, u have zambia & zebras(botswana) 2 watch & support. Its time dat B.Bafana learns dat draw its just like a lose. Botswana fought 4 all their games even afta thy had qualified & only lost 1 game & won all their home games. B.Bafana from 2 day neva play 4 a draw, u alwys celebrate 4 a draw u did it in Egypt as if u hve won. Most embrassing the coach also celebrated 4 a draw. I wonder whether b4 kickoff the coach tell u dat a draw is a win 4 us & a win is a bonus.

Bhaka4life aka Prinz (2 x Treble Champ): 2011-10-10 16:53

Our Admin, Technical Team and Players at it again, its about time these people must feel the heat when they either under perform, humiliate or embarrass the nation without remorse.

Even if we qualified, we fail to stamp authority at home instead have clowns like Khune who think this was Boswell Wilkie Circus. Thanks God we didn't qualify otherwise these bunch of clowns would go to further embarrass us.

This is a pattern, they draw a game they supposed to win and celebrate as if they won the World Cup only. Last year against France, the same clowns won against France but celebrated as if they won the World Cup when in fact they were the first host country to be eliminated in the 1st round.

We need a new crop of players who will die with their boots on for their country, I hope Shakes can try again to groom such a group...

manelisa : 2011-10-10 16:58

I don't understand y evrybdy is blaming Khune when SAFA nd whole bafana bafana team felt a draw was enough to secure a spot in the AFCON. We've seen it being done by top keeperd all over the world whn they their teams are well placed for a win...surely evryone knw would have never done the things he did if he was made aware of the rules prior the game. A perfect example was the display he showed @ peter mokaba stadium whn chiefs were trailing against goldern arrows. My plea let's not single out this young boy for an error of the organisationm

sibuza: 2011-10-10 21:52

These rules have been there for some time. Safa should have known better. Waste of time appealing. Nigeria ended up with same points with Angola World Cup 2006. But Angola went through on Head to Head.

2shot: 2011-10-10 22:24

B4 people make noise about being robbed by CAF, they shud relook at the ACN 2010 in Angola, cos Mali and Algeria finished on same points and even thou Mali had a better goal difference Algeria made it to the quarter finals due to better head to head performance. So these rules are not anything new to African football

tshepo kgatle : 2011-10-11 00:25

pitso is the one to blame .how can he defend at home?.how can he misinterpret caf rules?.how did he pass at boston college?he deserve to leave bafana bafana,now we are going to sit for a month without in dark city without a game time.

KidKudu7: 2011-10-11 02:52

Going forward...a new SAFA President must be appointed & a new Bafana Bafana coach to be appointed as well. We can't always be an average national team.

KidKudu7: 2011-10-11 02:53

Pitso & Nematandani must step down, period.

moloijuju4sure : 2011-10-11 05:56

96-champs by clive barker.safa doesnt want d winners.shakes mashaba was chased away as u23 team for winning.nw he proves them wrong.baker was in tears when they betray him,n they fail even nw to swallow their pride n supposed to have ask baker for his experience on caf.sies on d jelous stupid people who take creedit for other peoples work.as for pitso he is worse no wonder y he was an assistant for so long he deserved that.as he is bussy marketing for mphela ( a flop) shabba (capptain who cant even finish a game on team level)what a shame on nematandani.he now want to waste d money on appeal bcos he reserved it for some bonusses if pitso did qualify.y cant spend it on maglug glug than useless appeal.sono was right he rather go play golf than watch useless bafanya bafanya.aagghh sies man.what is it that pitso had and shakes dont?u dont play soccer with a certificate as pitso do but knowledge.tanx for not qualifying now back to reschedule we need psl games.mzansi passion n style.

sidney: 2011-10-11 07:47

hey wena Mantandana stop wasting our taxpayers money about your so called appeal.Instead do the rite thing just resigned cos you has failed to lead by example as safa president.Mr confuse Pitso must do the same and Mr Marks clueles check your facts before you opened your mouth.Enough is Enough safa executive must resigned.

badyn: 2011-10-13 19:18

sorry south africa, i'm from Morocco, there was possibility morocco get in the same situation that happend to south africa but more than on month,press,tv.. and all over MOrocco people was explaining,arguing... about that 14.1 rule and one thing was sure,is we have to win the last match with th max of goals to qualify without headaches and that's what happend,and as oen guy said, sierra-leone is not ghana/ivory coast..!! i'm shocked ZA coach played the draw!!! good luck for next time and world cup qualifiers with Fifa rules !!!!