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Vladimir Vermezovic complains of too many Soweto Derbies

VV – Spurs must also fight for Final spot

Posted: 2011-07-20 16:30

Kaizer Chiefs coach Vladimir Vermezovic believes it is only fair that Tottenham Hotspur should also fight for the right to play in the Vodacom Challenge Final.

Speaking ahead of Thursday’s match at the Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium against Orlando Pirates, ‘VV’ suggested that the English team should also play for their spot, rather than the current format which has the winner of the Derby going through to the deciding match.

“It’s not right that we have to fight to get into the final game,” Vermezovic says. “I think all the teams must fight to play in that match.”

The Chiefs coach also had a go at the number of Soweto Derbies currently being played, saying he fears it might lose what make it special.

“This season we [Chiefs and Pirates] could play anything between six and eight games against each other,” Vermezovic says. “That is not right for a Derby. The match can lose a lot that way.”

VV also heaped praise on Pirates for their performance during the 1-1 draw against Spurs last night.

Asked by KickOff.com whether he watch the game, Vermezovic responded: “Of course … I’m a big fan of football. I like to watch all the games. Pirates were very aggressive, especially in the opening 20 minutes. They were the better team and deserved to win.”

Meanwhile, Vermezovic reveals that Kaizer Motaung Jnr is his only doubt for the Derby, having picked up a leg injury during training yesterday.

HAVE YOUR SAY: Is ‘VV’ right about the Vodacom Challenge structure and the number of Derbies?

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Gucci Man: 2011-07-20 18:50

I don't know who came with this lousy idea of giving English teams an advantage everytime they coem in the country . If it was an African country they would have came up with a better idea . Whoever came up with this idea is dom and lousy

Derby will always be a derby .....as long as it's Chiefs & Pirates.

Blessing in disguise for Motaung Jrn , I dont trust him that much upfront .

michael : 2011-07-20 18:53

Thanks VV let them take it back to two African TEAMS. yOU ARE ABSOLUTLEY RIGHT.
ONCE AND ALWAYS.

sanele : 2011-07-20 18:54

Frst line up 4 strikers Mosona and Mojoro b4 Mosona leave dis country.

Gucci Man: 2011-07-20 18:54

VV: relax coach
We can play 50 derbies in one season and each match will always be special and enjoyable to the fans.

Trust me , it's like watching Real Madrid and FC Barcelona.
Last season they played 4 times in less than a 2 months and each game was good .

Swona Champ!: 2011-07-20 18:54

Jnr has not touched the ball in an official match in a long time, he must join his sister in the office!
VV mara, he likes complaining about things he cant change! what a waste!

WILLIAM : 2011-07-20 18:54

HE'S RIGHT COZ SPURS KNWS THT THEY HAV A FINAL 2 PLAY WHILE THEY DD'NT EVEN WIN A SINGLE GAME.

michael : 2011-07-20 18:56

Gucci My Brother I may not Support Chiefs but Motaung#7 is one of the best strikers in the country. To prove that Khosi check all his headed goals and tell me if their not Class.Please be patient with his Quality. Rivary Aside Motaung Is good.Once and Always.

Dikotsi : 2011-07-20 18:57

Barcelona and Madrid don engage in stupid tournaments, so there sparks when they meet...as for Chiefs vs Pirates, it's like listening to Judy Boucher

GPBW IS BACK: 2011-07-20 18:57

I AGRRE WITH YOU THERE MR VV

Gucci Man: 2011-07-20 19:07

@ Dikotsi : 2011-07-20 18:57
as for Chiefs vs Pirates, it's like listening to Judy Boucher

Khosi lami that was classic ....to me it's like listening to Rick Ross,Drake Lil Wayne OR Birdman in track called "Fire flames"

Sensation: 2011-07-20 19:08

hhayi VV again!they shud jst bring the old format back 2 teams from africa so that teams who r going for CAF champs(OPFC) can get gud preparation!

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Ezy: 2011-07-20 19:14

Indeed VV, my sentiments exactly

makgofometša : 2011-07-20 19:21

Plz pring back te old format ...AfricA teams..tis thing of English team..is no benefiting us...tey come here tood tun to play football.

Museri S.: 2011-07-20 19:26

100% for that observation VV, if we are meant to see competition no team should have an automatic ticket to the final, that would make the tourney even more interesting. Why is Vodacom discriminating Bloem Celtics, would it have been seen as a norm if one between Chiefs or Pirates was being excluded? And we say the apartheid era is gone...my foot!! Talk about South Africans discriminating their own!!

Antony : 2011-07-20 19:28

Yes visiting european teams must fight for final. To be in a final means you will win a trophy, first price money and gold medals. I also support a four team format. Derby must come from winning in the format as it can't be avoided, even now as they are three points must be used.

aubrey wa lekhosi : 2011-07-20 19:32

vv is rite dis is unfair vodacom mst brng 2 teams lyk b4

lordjerry : 2011-07-20 19:35

vinolia vilakazi knws a lot abt football nt kaizer n khoza those 2 knw nothing abt the importance of a derby n hw we should miss watching it. U r smart my girl.

Nrb Baloyi: 2011-07-20 19:43

VV must just shut up. You must beat Pirates to play Spurs in final that is period. You are scared of Pirates and they gonna whip you tomoro.

Malegale : 2011-07-20 19:44

100% corrct , the derby is gonna lose its value due to Khoza & Kaizer 's friendship.

TRUTH : 2011-07-20 19:44

I've never seen a united vs city, milan vs inter, liverpool vs everton, barcelona vs madrid, sundowns vs supersport, dortmund vs schalke games in preseason tournaments.
All these useless derbies are only there to benefit the sponsors as well as the two club bosses otherwise, the soweto derby keeps losing it's spark.

Sol : 2011-07-20 19:51

I mean is useless..vv is correct.

mawemune : 2011-07-20 19:56

Yes the man is right. The teams must be 4 and they will both fight for the final game. The tournament will start on the semi final level. As for the he is corect.

Marvin : 2011-07-20 19:59

Yah he is ryt I mean our SA teams r as good as dey r so I belive the game should be equal

N Sululu : 2011-07-20 20:10

Vv is right its starting to get boring now

zakes themba : 2011-07-20 20:11

Shabha khosi shabha leal mst knw dat vv is boss so well I really trust vv n de players in dis coming game love all khosi

mzinto : 2011-07-20 20:33

his spot on its unfortunate we look down on ourselfs its sad that a foreigner is suggestion the review. Can we please support VV on these matter.A very brave move VV

Maczilla : 2011-07-20 21:03

Watch the space...the soweto derby wl neva b considered as the best derby in da world soon,and again supporterz wl jst take ths game lyk pirates vs black aces or chiefs vs golden arrows

kamo : 2011-07-20 21:29

match 1: chiefs vs spurs.
Match 2: pirates vs spurs.
Final: winners of the 2 matches. Bt
If spurs wins the 1st 2 matches, then a derby would decide the club to play spurs in the final.

Penalties can decide a drawn match after 90min!

How about this format?

Sputlaldinho : 2011-07-20 21:30

This Leal is jus a joke 2 me who doesn't know what he's doing. He wants 2 release abt 10 players @ Donkies but wants 2 sign another two or three players! What a joke Brazilian coach?

Knocks man : 2011-07-20 22:55

I agree with V V, the derby is going 2 loose its value, this thing must stop , I am no longer excited by the derby like the 90's. I also feel like it has already lost its value, just imagine Chiefs beating Pirates 3-0 & 3-1 in a season it's becase they playing against each other plenty of time.

Marvel to Watch : 2011-07-20 22:58

Hei wena,tloela bogwala,we are going to bleksem you & your little tities.
We are the champions & we beat people anytime of the day.

Tower : 2011-07-20 22:59

Safa must start inviting African teams again.Dis is nt gud at all.

The General - Soccer Dude: 2011-07-20 23:02

@KAMO,YOUR FORMAT STILL GIVES ADVANTAGE TO SPURS. THEY PLAY TWO MATCHES WHILE OTHERS JUST HAVE ONCE CHANCE TO GO TO THE FINAL. THE CAN JUST WIN ONE MATCH OUT OF TWO AND THEY WOULD BE IN THE FINAL. THE SOLUTION IS TO INTRODUCE THE 4TH TEAM. THAT IS THE ONLY SOLUTION.

@SPOOK-DUMB, THE ARTICLE IS ABOUT VODACOM CHALLANGE FORMAT NOT ABOUT OP.

2PacManyisa wa maTreble : 2011-07-21 01:25

luk VV/ZZ wa maZebra.we wont feel pity or sry becuz of ur louzy words,dis season u wont 4get it.ur in trable mineer.
'Aceee'til Nengomushi retire

Racci_Bucs : 2011-07-21 02:29

This is one time where I agree with Velaphi. I have never seen rivals playing in a preseason friendly. In the old progressive Vodacom challenge the derby was there by chance not now wen we always expect it. Last season if we had th Voda Challenge and that stupid Carling Cup we could have had 7 derbies. Plus this games r not a good way of assessing players coz they play 2 impress and try win contracts. The old African teams format was even better 4 wen we goin 2 play in CAF competitions.

Khosified Brinzo : 2011-07-21 03:33

Wena Vv u keep sayng evry playa deservz a chance 2 play, u said it urslf on da web dat Lucky Khune is nw fit enuf 2 play, we hav hope in Lucky he jst needz game tym, how cum we nt seing any progres mxm zokunya mus wena, 2day I as a fan i want 2 c Lucky Khune get a chance lyk evry1, ungazong'hlanyisa otherwise i wil cum 2 naturena n burn it uzokbona

Ceddy : 2011-07-21 05:17

I think vv he's right

Trompies: 2011-07-21 05:37

Vodacom must bring back the old format,this one is boring,as for too many derbies he's right cos it gets tasteless to beat one team 10 times without a reply in one season

dzivhu : 2011-07-21 07:38

v v u r ryt, dis fomat is so boring. Soccer is da sym, no europe no africa.

Ramogomana : 2011-07-21 07:47

I think VV is right, cause all the clubs should earn their place to the final.

Bob Steak ,eMalahleni : 2011-07-21 08:41

I'm telling u,I heard so many time ppl lambasting Dr K and used to side with him,but really it's clear,where Money is involved he dzn't care who sayz what.

plz bring back the Old fomart and take the Final where it belong-Dbn!!!!

president : 2011-07-21 09:24

the real reason african teams pulled out was because they wanted to host the world cup also. they ddnt want to help s.a. psl is nt responsible for tht. the same african teams tht all yu are cryng for are the ones tht do not want us. wht more do yu want

Gold Star!!: 2011-07-21 09:35

This was planned to favour Europian clubs VV is ryt, why not play first round as league a winner gets three points and position one and two they advanced to final. simple!

Ntukza : 2011-07-21 09:49

Dat's gr8 V.V da voda challenge is nt 'lekker' anymore where is da teams lyk T.P MAZEMBE&ASANTE KOTOKO?

Swona Champ!: 2011-07-21 09:52

vv is blaffing, the reason there's one team is because the sponser did not put enough money for 4teams, 2local, 2european/african team, hence between chieps and Pirates, they agreed to play in this fashion! vv must just relax, his short spell this season starts tonight!

Buhle 2sini : 2011-07-21 10:04

Yes vv they must fight 4 final.De level of PSL is almost 2 de same.

Noski: 2011-07-21 10:07

Whoever wins the derby tonight must filed a second string team on Saturday. Based on their perfomances during the this tournament they do not deserve to be in the final. The real final will be tonight.

Its disrespectful of Vodacom to guarantee this overated Egnlish team passage to the final. Either Vodacom reverts back to the 4 team system or they go back to the drawing board or do they need us to go on strike? lol lol lol lol.

Noski: 2011-07-21 10:09

Whoever wins the derby tonight must field a second string team on Saturday. Based on their perfomances during the this tournament Spurs do not deserve to be in the final. The real final will be tonight.

Its disrespectful of Vodacom to guarantee this overated Egnlish team passage to the final. Either Vodacom reverts back to the 4 team system or they go back to the drawing board or do they need us to go on strike? lol lol lol lol.

Tlhabeli: 2011-07-21 10:18

He he he he, now the moron wants to come up with rules, Vicks Vaporub wants to scare awar sponsors, and i think its about time this dude goes home before he embarrasses himself further. Who is he anyway, the derby can be played as many times and will always be fire after fire and bald one should just concentrate on Zebra Chimpz instead of being a PRO. MATHATA RURI.

Dikotsi: 2011-07-21 10:48

Dikotsi : 2011-07-20 18:57
Barcelona and Madrid don engage in stupid tournaments, so there sparks when they meet...as for Chiefs vs Pirates, it's like listening to Judy Boucher

Hehehe, i have a fan. I did not write this and i dont use a phone to comment. But its okay....i like Judy Boucher on Sunday morning anyway...

Dikotsi: 2011-07-21 10:54

Thanks VV for starting this debate again. It should go on until something is done. This is how the British/English keeps manage perceptions. They will forever act superior in all respect and will always ensure the British interest come first. This time they using our teams as curtain raisers just to ensure perceptions are that English teams are superior...and to ensure it. But! in the end Money talks i guese.

julyj: 2011-07-21 11:18

I think he's right....., at the begining of dis tournament there used 2 b 4 teams compiting 7 i dont understand why it changed.....
off the record:Khoza & Motaung killed the charity cup they can play the Carling Black Label CUP.

bafanasikhonde: 2011-07-21 11:58

VV i think you are right this so called oversease team must also fight for a place in the final or they must bring back the old vodacom challenge with two teams from africa.

nzimande: 2011-07-21 12:53

Khosi 3 Pirates 0

Mfundisi One-Skipper Bakaniya: 2011-07-21 13:04

Good Point VV, their 1st game with Kaizer ****, they were not serious, soo, they must fight for final spot also

lungzbee: 2011-07-21 13:14

Two options:

SuperSport United is Spurs' partner club. Either they must be added, or another team must be added. How about Sundowns?

If Vodacom wants a team that is sponsored by them, then Celtic must be added.

Or, for the sakes of using football to unify different peoples of the world, Vodacom must put more money on the table, and invite a second non-South African team. Either from the continent, or South America.

I agree, with VV, this format is useless.

Spurs have not won a single game, yet they're in the final.

lungzbee: 2011-07-21 13:23

Two options:

SuperSport United is Spurs' partner club. Either they must be added, or another team must be added. How about Sundowns?

If Vodacom wants a team that is sponsored by them, then Celtic must be added.

Or, for the sakes of using football to unify different peoples of the world, Vodacom must put more money on the table, and invite a second non-South African team. Either from the continent, or South America.

I agree, with VV, this format is useless.

Spurs have not won a single game, yet they're in the final.

M.com: 2011-07-21 15:59

110% correct VV
@ Noski - I strongly agree with you. The final will be tonight between the two SA teams. Saturday's just a formality - second string squad will do from either of the two that wins tonight.
The current format is discrediting our game

****very upseting********

kgomoeswanaMACK: 2011-07-21 16:07

It seems as if Our Coach VV is totally Scared of the Buccaneerz, why is he suggesting that it would be fair if Spurs should also fight playing in the finals of Vodacom Challenge on saturday......I'm a Kaizer Chiefs fan but i don't see any reason why should they (Tottenhm Spurs) fight for final....I thnk VV must jst say if he is afraid of Bucs

kgomoeswanaMACK: 2011-07-21 16:09

It seems as if Our Coach VV is totally Scared of the Buccaneerz, why is he suggesting that it would be fair if Spurs should also fight playing in the finals of Vodacom Challenge on saturday......I'm a Kaizer Chiefs fan but i don't see any reason why should they (Tottenhm Spurs) fight for final....I thnk VV must jst say if he is afraid of Bucs..........4rm Willie Timhondzo @turf

sia-sia wogqoyi: 2011-07-21 18:33

YHa ha ha ha YHo,is better to be scared b4 the game wow coach you will never EVER WON the lig,gud 4 you last czn you beat PIRATES but NOT 2day NEVEr,pirates will play on sat love it or not ;we play 4 MZION REst in peace BUCS be bless

magaza: 2011-07-21 18:45

I support VV on dis 1,Guys lets direct our concerns to the following Vodacom Challeng staff:

SAIL
Tournament Promoter Jabu Mathibela
jabu@sail.co.za

Project Director Karen Lightfoot
karenl@sail.co.za

Operations Manager Lynne Harries
harriesl@sail.co.za