Liphoko for Golden Arrows

Posted: 31 January 2013 Time: 09:38 am

Orlando Pirates development player Tshepo Liphoko is set for a loan move to Golden Arrows.

Liphoko, who is a midfielder, was expected to be promoted to Pirates’ first team together with Nhlakanipho Ntuli and the latter has since been moved up, but Liphoko could be spending the rest of the season with Abafana Bes’thende.

The former Under-17 national team skipper, who was until recently linked with Belgian Pro League club KRC Genk, will sign a six-month loan deal with Arrows.

“Genk will have him for trials after this six months,” a source tells KickOff.com.

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Double Treble Champ-Marapo
posted: 09:48 am
Eish mara kante ke eng ka this thing of loaning these youngsters. It is only here laMzanzi where younsters are not given enough chance. Cup competitions like the the Nedbank are meant for these boys to be given chances.

Right now we have a fixture against Matuli or Maluti ABET school boys but you going to see us playing them with the same lineup that we will be using in the CAF Champions league final against Al Ahly.

If Chiefs had used their development players[even though we all know it was closed coz the yougest was 27] against Baroka, maybe they wouldn't be in this shame they are in right now.

Maybe Jimmy Tau and prrppppprrrrppprrrrrrrr wouldn't be synonimous.
JOVIES
posted: 09:57 am
the boy looks like, Thabo "Maicon" Matlaba, this the best of the GALAXY development what ou neighbours will forever wish to posses. my champ this boys need to get some game time coz u know no one is guaranteed game time at the GALAXY OF STARS.

MANDLA MASENDE WILL FOREVER BE PROMISING
Double Treble Champ-Marapo
posted: 10:00 am
I didn't scout for these boys to be paraded around like a trophy. You have La Masia products growing and moulded together and this is what is making Barca strong every day. Now Lipho would be exposed to the Chiefs typical style of parking the bus and playing javelin at Arrows and then we expect him to come back and execute the tiki taka displayed by the Mighty Bucselona.

I had a meeting with Njenje and RDS about all my dissapointments and frustration at the way we want to do things these days. We used to have the likes abo DukuDuku, Continental, Cheese, Tso, and the likes and our job as development scouting team was evident.

Now we keep on buying while we have the best talent.
Treble brace Champ \"Superbrand\"
posted: 10:02 am
Another young galaxy for overseas trial.
Tico MP
posted: 10:02 am
matlaba's son
Gucci Man
posted: 10:05 am
That is why we're struggling in this country in terms of development , we have coaches who don't believe in our youngsters .
In the past just name a few players we had aboSteve Lekoelea (15 yrs) , Bradley Carnell(15 yr) , Aaron Mokoena(17yr), Steven Pienaar(18yr), Thabo Mooiki(18yr) Thabang Lebese(18 yr), Dududuku Makhanya(18yr) and Jabu Pule(19yr) .
This was possible because we had coaches who believe in youngsters, now our current PSL coaches all they do is move these youngsters to NFD teams, struggling teams, he comes back then loan him again.

This is not really helping our youth at all.....this is just rubbish and Kaizer,Khoza,Motsepe and all leaders should be coming up with a system and make it compulsory for all PSL teams/coaches to feature atlease 2 U/20 players in their games . Even if the youngster is coming in for 5mins , that 5mins will motivate him to do more and that will motivate him.
TREBLE CHAMP KING
posted: 10:05 am
Double Treble Champ-Marapo: U know how difficult it is to break into Pirates starting eleven. lets not frustrate thiese young Yebo Yes ghosts, lets expose them to PSL standards and prepare them for the future. Age is on their side.

Liphoko plays in the middlefield, how old is Jali,Ace,Bibo even Ngobeni a good player could not keep up. Look at how Cyril Mashigo is so brilliant but its difficult, where is Mxoyane n Zulu.

My champ, The Iron Duke knows what he is doing. This is what we call strategic placements.
TREBLE CHAMP KING
posted: 10:09 am
Gucci Man: i today's modern game, the business aspect of the game is far bigger than the development of the game, coaches pay more attention to their KPI/KPA more than anything because it keeps them employed.

The NFD n Vodacom is full of young players, how competitive is the game at that level, what is the rate of players recruited to the more senior league.
De Bruin!!!
posted: 10:12 am
Bucs still have life in them, more talented youngsters to go overseas.
We develop stars ain't alcoholics turning motivational speakers 'cos of lack of income and sane brains.
This guys will take ze Belgian League by storm then Europe.
MAMINZELA
posted: 10:15 am
Orlando Pirates produces best talent
European teams have realised that
That is why we are the ONLY PSL team to be represented at the Man U youth Cup season after Season
We have an effective development model
Our Products continue to swell the National teams
Our Products are an envy of other PSL teams
Double Treble Champ-Marapo
posted: 10:15 am
TREBLE CHAMP KING

Melaitie it is more difficult to break into a Barcelona line-up, ManU line-up, Chelsea, Arsenal, Madrid, Bayern but you always see their development players given a chance gradually until they develop into great players.

A big team like Pirates should value the Championship more than the PSL cup competitions. I mean whats the use of playing the likes abo Bibo, Jali, Ace, Tico against Maluti school boys in a Nedbank cup instead of the likes abo Lipho.
No my Champ, i am against all these things. We are killing development of our players. Jack Wilshere just like Jali is a young man but a senior players but was rested in the FA cup to give chance to others.

Thiago Alcantara is competing against the likes abo Xavi, Inniesta and Cesc but he is given a chance. We won 4 nil against Leopards, why not give 1 or 2 yousters 5-10 minutes in that game.
De Bruin!!!
posted: 10:17 am
Gucci Man

You got soccer brains and you do use 'em sparingly, continue to eat what you ate for breakfast today 'cos it's good for your thinking kwakwa.

I support what you just said and really nomater how things are, this guys needs to be introduced gradually to the senior sides just like what VV did last season to ze Cheriff.
Let's develop and use, lest we throw away that which is more precious than shinning stones.
Gucci Man
posted: 10:19 am
I don't know why we haven't learnt a lesson and I think we should take a leaf from countries like Ghana,Brazil ,Germany .....I will exclude England becuase they're patethic on the field .

We cannot rely on 25 to 30 yr old players everytime , what's the use of development then if we still gonna be chasing aboKhama Billiat, Kalaba everytime we need re-inforce our teams.

Last year I've noticed Liverpool and even though they're struggling but they started introducing their youngsters to the EPL and right now their youngster Raheem Sterling 17yr is also playing for their national team.
You watch Bundesliga and you'll see the same method these clubs like Borrusia Dortmund, Bayern Munich are using and they have youngsters not warming the bench but playing and they're doing very well.
Chiefs had 5 youngsters promoted by Dr Khumalo , and what happened to those boys they were loaned to other teams...I remember one of them his surname is Sitayitayi , Tshegofatso Ramabu ...
I don't know where are those boys now .....
Champ Msholozi
posted: 10:21 am
Another Formula 1 Deal
Champ Thabo Moroto(All Psl Trophies)
posted: 10:22 am
Another deal that was finalized in the bedroom. Mara Khosa oja Mato hle banna. aowa!!
MAMINZELA
posted: 10:25 am
Anti-Bobby

Another Formula 1 Deal

Your Chaiman akasavukelwa thats Y you dont have these benefits
El Sol
posted: 10:27 am
Gucci Khosi lam ifully agree with you, our coaches are don't believe in youngster, overseas players make their team debuts while still teenagers, some even make it @National level besenamafinyila..PSL should along with Suffer should do something about this..u're leading 2-0 heading into the 80th minute why not sub any playa for a youngster just for experience's sake & let him smell what he could be possibly rewarded with should he dedicates himself, we tired of having to watch these /madalas/ week in week out while our youngsters are said to be inexperienced, where are they suPposed to get /experienced/ if you don't even give them 5minutes of game time but they train with these so called 'tried &tested' oldies every day..#SAfutbol
Gucci Man
posted: 10:35 am
If our all PSL chairmen sit downa and draft a much improved youth system , e.g that each PSL team cannot play more than 4 matches without giving a 17 or 18yr old atleast 5mins game time .
If that is included in their mandates , then we gonna start seeing more youth in our TOP LEAGUE and from all the 16 PSL teams .

If the team/coach didn't field a youngster for a maximum of 4-5 games then , the club must be penalised for a minimum of R100 000 and that money must be invested again to the provisional development structures/ those soccer academies.

That will also give Gordon Ingesund a breath of fresh air in terms of selecting Bafana Bafana players,
We(fans) also can stop complaining when Katlego Mphela,Shabba,Yeye,KG,Masilela, Tlou Segoelela,Diane Klate,Andile Jali are included or excluded in the national team.
This will exposed our talent and we can have more of our players going to competitive leagues in Europe and we all know the benefit of having more youth players being exposed internationally
Iniesta Manyisa
posted: 10:41 am
Whoelse in the PSL? It can only be Orlando Pirates Development.

Halala Bhakashushu
Guilty
posted: 10:42 am
bedroom punana killing the players
Gucci Man
posted: 10:44 am
El Sol
posted: 10:27 am | Report
Gucci Khosi lam ifully agree with you, our coaches are don't believe in youngster, overseas players make their team debuts while still teenagers, some even make it @National level besenamafinyila..PSL should along with Suffer should do something about this..u're leading 2-0 heading into the 80th minute why not sub any playa for a youngster just for experience's sake & let him smell what he could be possibly rewarded with should he dedicates himself, we tired of having to watch these /madalas/ week in week out while our youngsters are said to be inexperienced, where are they suPposed to get /experienced/ if you don't even give them 5minutes of game time but they train with these so called 'tried &tested' oldies every day..#SAfutbol
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I don't think there is any PSL coach or chairman that can convince me , or give me a valid reason why we don't have 16,17,18 yr old players playing in PSL right now.
I've seen Mark Fish @ the age of 18yr playing for Cosmos , and he was playing very well even when they went to play in Africa , he(Mark Fish) was young and you could see that this boy he'll be something BIG in future.
El Sol
posted: 10:49 am
This will make sense to any blogger that that follows &knows idiski clearly:

Remember the WC U20 semifinal match between SA &Ghana??, tr uth is 90% of players from that match(prefebly Ghananians) all play their trade overseas &for big teams like Juventus,Marseille,Ajax etc , with only Serero from the SA side, now ask yourself why is that? Are our players not good enough? No that's not the case, truth is they are denied opportunities by these stupid &greedy coaches we have, abo Maluleka,Masango,Mphahlela,Ngobeni, Bhengu &the crew are regular vuvuzela blowers whilst abo Jali,Erusmus &others are denied moves to bigger clubs ..Mzansi why sithula nathi?? We'll continue to praise abo Benni for their accolades because these youngsters aren't given a chance..why don't we have players playing ko Bundesliga,Laliga,EPL (never mind Pienaar he ditched us),Seria A or even French Ligue 1? Are we that bad ko diski mos??..
Cup Kings of SA Soccer
posted: 10:58 am
El Sol

posted: 10:27 am | Report

Gucci Khosi lam ifully agree with you, our coaches are don't believe in youngster, overseas players make their team debuts while still teenagers, some even make it @National level besenamafinyila..PSL should along with Suffer should do something about this..u're leading 2-0 heading into the 80th minute why not sub any playa for a youngster
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don't say that....remember what hapenned in Bloemfontein when 5 skippers were leading by 3-1 in the 89th minute
Gucci Man
posted: 11:00 am
El Sol
posted: 10:49 am | Report
This will make sense to any blogger that that follows &knows idiski clearly:

Remember the WC U20 semifinal match between SA &Ghana??, tr uth is 90% of players from that match(prefebly Ghananians) all play their trade overseas &for big teams like Juventus,Marseille,Ajax etc , with only Serero from the SA side, now ask yourself why is that? Are our players not good enough? No that's not the case, truth is they are denied opportunities by these stupid &greedy coaches we have, abo Maluleka,Masango,Mphahlela,Ngobeni, Bhengu &the crew are regular vuvuzela blowers whilst abo Jali,Erusmus &others are denied moves to bigger clubs ..Mzansi why sithula nathi?? We'll continue to praise abo Benni for their accolades because these youngsters aren't given a chance..why don't we have players playing ko Bundesliga,Laliga,EPL (never mind Pienaar he ditched us),Seria A or even French Ligue 1? Are we that bad ko diski mos??..
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If you remember very well Bennie McCarthy was denied the chance by Clive Barker , the only game I remember was when he came on the pitch @ 89mins .
Thanks to Jomo Sono for believing in him and he did very well , I remember in AFCON he scored 4 goals in that match....I stand to be corrected I think we were playing Namibia .
My point is not all these youngsters are not good enough, they just need that opportunity...that 5mins game time and build his confidence...
Halejoetsoe
posted: 11:03 am
@ EL SOL
I fully concur, SA will not able to compete internationally if they don't have players who play their trade in those elite leagues.
It should be a concern to those in administration of our soccer. We can't go on like this, we need to those experiences from abroad and i'm not talking about bo-KG here.
Magaya: The Double Winner
posted: 11:05 am
call them Bucs-and-loana
TREBLE CHAMP KING
posted: 11:06 am
Gucci Man: Mandla Masango, George Lebese,Ncanana,Songwiqi,Mateba have all been given opportunity. what transpired then.

Let us not force the issues of development without paying attention to what business operationals demands from a coach, its all about business and the coaches KPI/KPA. The game has transformed while many of you are stil living in the past.
El Sol
posted: 11:09 am
LIFE OF A TYPICAL SA SOCCER PLAYER.

12yrs-17yrs plays for development side.
17-19 moved to the senior team, without even making his debut , is loaned/sold to a small team.
20yrs-22 makes his debut for a small team & show glimses of a good footballer &earns himself a nickname/comparison of a former player(LEGEND) & the team that loaned him out suddenly wants him ,only for him to remain on the bench until his contract expires.
24yrs- clubless & certain symphathised coach takes him under his belt &the player plays regularly & is deemed average later on getting his contract clearance thus goes for trials on smaller teams &fails..3yrs down the line he's in 2nd League & suddenly retires without achieving nada in his futboling career &some call him a Legend for probably scoring once in a big match..#SaFootball
Magaya: The Double Winner
posted: 11:11 am
@Guilty...Hehehe! bro what are you insinuating? These loan deals are done by naked parties, and before the player knows it, he is either an arrows or pierats player; case in point, one Njabulo Manqana and his famous statement " i was called by someone called screamer tshabalala, and now i dont know i am here..."

This team is amazing..tltltltltlttltltl !!
Halejoetsoe
posted: 11:15 am
I will always have this hope that things will change and tallented SA youngsters benifit from that. With agents like Mr. Mike Makaab introducing innovations like "co-development project" between local and overseas clubs, there is always hope for these kids.
Peeping-Tom
posted: 11:28 am
Captain of that age cheating rats under 17 that was disbanded recently....he is 25 this man...
John John
posted: 11:29 am
Gucci Man you have said enough

We cannot even cope with the 18 year olds at national level with our so 28-30 year old youngsters. This is the cause.
El Kampion
posted: 11:31 am
I just think the coaches are more concerned about their jobs than giving this youngsters a chance.

Abo-Gift,Makhanya,Walaza etc were given a chance in their prime without being loaned out.

What is the use of a development if we can't promote this players?

Most youngsters who were loaned out to other teams have never made a come back,or are still on loan

Arrows is a team of ups and downs, they are not far from the axe,and i dont think they will rely on youngsters to save them from the axe...they will go for experience
El Sol
posted: 11:38 am
Someone told me John Obi Mikel(Chelsea) was rejected by Ajax Cape Town years back ? How true is that?
Milutin Sredojević (HLABARINTO)
posted: 11:45 am
I think blaming coaches for lack of regular game time for young players is injustice to them, remember coaches are hired to deliver instant results by their bosses and for those bosses to demand instant results from those coaches it is because of the pressure that they get from us the supporters. Take an example from Chiefs or Sundowns, when last did this 2 teams win the league or any major trophy? What will be the reaction of the supporters if Pitso or Baxter decide to field your so called youngsters in the name of developing for the future? Wouldnt the very same supporters complain if the results are not forth coming? RDS was fired at Bidvest because of the results irrespective of the fact that he was giving young players a chance. Chiefs fans were complaining during VV's era that Bobby didnt wana buy big name players, still remember Sheriff, Mateba, Khune, Sitayitayi? My point is sometimes the supporters demands aint helping this situation
Double Treble Champ-Marapo
posted: 12:08 pm
TREBLE CHAMP KING posted: 11:06 am | Report
Gucci Man: Mandla Masango, George Lebese,Ncanana,Songwiqi,Mateba have all been given opportunity. what transpired then.

Let us not force the issues of development without paying attention to what business operationals demands from a coach, its all about business and the coaches KPI/KPA. The game has transformed while many of you are stil living in the past.

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King my Champ, but we should also note that it not all these expensive players that deliver. What has Talatou, Boa Mortes and others did. Even a 50 million Torres is said to be a flop at Chelsea. So this is all about a gamble, a trial and error. But we should not sacrifice the future of our nation.

We don't expect a national coach to say "give me strikers" like Pitso said. Or we don't expect to stick around a player with 75 caps but nothing to show, but when you ask people ask you who is better than him.
mqadin
posted: 12:20 pm
im proud of you Boy
TREBLE CHAMP KING
posted: 01:05 pm
Hlabarinto

I think blaming coaches for lack of regular game time for young players is injustice to them, remember coaches are hired to deliver instant results by their bosses and for those bosses to demand instant results from those coaches it is because of the pressure that they get from us the supporters. Take an example from Chiefs or Sundowns, when last did this 2 teams win the league or any major trophy? What will be the reaction of the supporters if Pitso or Baxter decide to field your so called youngsters in the name of developing for the future? Wouldnt the very same supporters complain if the results are not forth coming? RDS was fired at Bidvest because of the results irrespective of the fact that he was giving young players a chance. Chiefs fans were complaining during VV's era that Bobby didnt wana buy big name players, still remember Sheriff, Mateba, Khune, Sitayitayi? My point is sometimes the supporters demands aint helping this situation

strong point indeed. i like the angle of bringing in supporters influence and how they affect the process of introducing young players. U have killed it boy.

Guys: the bigger picture is, there are stake holders involved and results are an order of the day.

what is Ajax achieving with its young stars and how many players are they exporting abroad or selling locally.
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