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Siyabonga Nomvete and Sangweni debate rages on

Posted: 29 May 2012 Time: 11:09 am

THE row over the PSL Footballer of the Season award handed to Moroka Swallows veteran Siyabonga Nomvete on Sunday night refuses to go away.

Orlando Pirates fans are adamant their own Siyabonga – Sangweni – deserved the ultimate accolade on a night when the 34-year-old ‘Bhele’ won FOUR awards, picking up cheques worth R600 000 in slightly less than an hour.

While prospective gamblers at the surrounding Gold Reef City were desperately prospecting for a few Rands around them, South Africa's footballing fraternity were left open-mouthed as Nomvete – fresh from scoring a hat-trick on his return to Bafana Bafana in a friendly against club side Impala Warriors earlier in the day – was forced to use his aching legs to get to the stage time and again.

Three of those awards were won without serious debate. The R50 000 PSL Golden Boot, named after the late Buccaneer Lesley Manyathela, was a matter of mathematics. Nomvete reached 20 League goals this season and ended eight clear of his rivals, including the 34-year-old Benni McCarthy.

He also scooped the R150 000 PSL Player of the Season accolade ahead of team-mate David Mathebula and Sangweni. And a quick count of votes among his peers saw Nomvete take the Player's Player of the Season cheque for R150 000.

But it was the R250 000 Footballer of the Season – awarded by Sports Minister Fikile Mbalula to the best player in all competitions, not just the PSL – that got the Ghost's goat.

While Nomvete shone in the League and failed with Coach of the Season Gordon Igesund’s Swallows in the cups, Sangweni played 28 League games for the Buccaneers, scoring vital goals against Bloemfontein Celtic and Golden Arrows in the title-clinching final two games.

He also played in EVERY knock-out match, where Pirates won the MTN8 trophy and the Telkom Knock-out, where Sangweni was voted Defender of the Tournament.

Just like last year, when Ajax Cape Town's Thulani Serero won the award – voted for by the 16 PSL coaches – ahead of Andile Jali, Augusto Palacios was making Ruud Krol-style waves.

Pirates' Peruvian caretaker coach – still not sure of his future next season – told KickOff.com: "I think our man deserved it on merit. Of course Sangweni is disappointed.

"I respect what Nomvete did, but I feel Sangweni deserved this one. Sangweni was also a part of the national team throughout the season, so for me personally this was his award.

"I don't dispute what Nomvete did, but Sangweni did well in ALL competitions."

And of course he's right. With seven goals in all competitions, the 30-year-old from Empangeni, whose younger brother Thamsanqa has just left AmaZulu for Sundowns, did do the business. But here's the problem.

There were so many other prominent Pirates who did well in all competitions during another historic treble-winning season for the Sea Robbers.

McCarthy, who won the ABSA-lutely stunning goal of the season for his overhead-kick, also picked up the Telkom Knock-out goal and Player of the Tournament awards. And he produced the two late goals which won the title in Durban just over a week ago.

And then there's the captain, Lucky Lekgwathi who, at 35, scored what was eventually the most important goal of the season, the last-gasp effort which overcame stubborn SuperSport United a month ago.

The 35-year-old from GaRankuwa would have been my choice as South Africa's best player this season, but he wasn't nominated for ANY award on Sunday night.

Perhaps Sangweni's failure shows just how much talent the Pirates had on show rather than how much other Premier coaches dislike the black-and-white.

Sangweni himself, of course, showed no sign of discomfort. He told Soccer Laduma: “Nomvete deserved the big award. Honestly, Bhele worked hard this past season - I’m happy for him, which is why I congratulated him and would like to congratulate him once again.

“I can’t blame anyone because those who selected him believed he was more deserving. We see things differently, as some people think I should’ve won the award but that’s how football is. I have no hard feelings about it because being nominated in almost every award means I did well and I’m happy about it.”

So Siyabongas all round it is. And for my money, Nomvete's goal glut was THE story of the season. He scored more goals in percentage terms than Robin van Persie scored for "one man team" Arsenal, and the man from KwaMashu almost single-handedly propelled the Dube Birds from relegation fodder to championship contenders.

For that, Bhele deserved everything he got on Sunday night, which was a thoroughly enjoyable occasion. But one last question: Where was the voice of the PSL, Robert Marawa of MetroFm, SABCtv and SuperSport?

I know, but I'm afraid I can't tell you.

Neal Collins Follow me on Twitter @nealcol

Article by: AN Other

Previous comments on this story...

Dooba (Glory Reclaimed)
posted: 11:46 am
Clearly it did not take a "mirror on the wall" to decide who was the fairest footballer of them all this season- the SA coaches are not stupid to decide accolades on mirrors purely because the fans of a certain team live in the world of poetries.

Besides, being a Pierat player itself is a demerit in itself; how do you vote for a player whose team ethics are not professional or, to cite most sober KO bloggers, use "mafia" style tactics to get what they want- is it not the same Pierats fans who reiterated: "what Khoza wants, Khoza gets"- not to mention the substance of rumours making waves that the same Chairman's SPEAR is appreciated in KZN for wins and all. The moderate and modest Siya- as it clearly showed- deserved all the accolades, and if the other Siya deserved it, his modesty would have shown by keeping his feelings to himself insead of sending Njenje and the whole mafia brigade to speak ill of fellow Bafana international.
Qaddafi
posted: 11:49 am
My question is what criterion is used to determine who the footballer of the year is? Is it based on league achievements? Is it based on how many goals one scored or is it an emotional choice? Nomvete did well for himself however the footballer of the year Award is Questionable.
Thuso Ntlhane
posted: 11:50 am
believe me, Steve Khompela is man of his words and his always onjective...what he did what not a mistake nor error, but deliberately he did that because he wanted to show some coaches who voted on Nomvethe taht they were subjective against Pirates...even BBK said it clear that this will go long way to hounor the right person.

last year it happend to Jali against Serero, who did nothing to help Ajax wheras Jali was the main man in all competitions playing in all four cup finals and win 3.

if were to compare Nomvethe, Manqele, and Benni, i will say benni and Manqele was supposed to win the player's plaayer of the year...beacuse Benni scored almost the same goals score by Nomvethe excuding the penalities scored by bhele.

my suggestion is to correct the voting of the palyer of the year by coaches as they dont have time to watch this gaes like journos, so journos must vote on this category.

and lastly congradulations to Bhele on Top goal scorer only.i pause
SOMALI_*_PIRATE
posted: 11:52 am
I think the PSL, Robert Marawa of MetroFm, SABCtv and SuperSport did not want to be seen to mock the awards, the touched on the criteria and left it there.

Its aunfortunate that some people will not apply their minds to this issue but will attack certain clubs for whatever resentment they have against the clubs. This will only perpetuate the problem.

A review of the process needs to be done. Either the coaches choose based on what they like (Subjective way) or a reliable panel is chosen, applies the criteria and chooses the winner (Objective) were meeting the criteria and not the voting is what counts.

Otherwise this will continue - It happened 4 times now, 2 times with Teko, Jali and Nsimbi.
Mlamletsi
posted: 11:52 am
fuck, no coache loves pirates from the psl coaches... this is total bullshit nomvete only played well in the league while Sangweni has been instrumental for pirates the whole season. not even a red card won three cups mxm fuck shit nx
Filaz Roger Feutmba...Sandawana
posted: 11:54 am
Last season Bucs fans were complaining over Serero beating Jali kwi awards...ngoku ngu Bele noSangweni...hayi suka futsek maaaarn!!!!! Cry babies
Bhakashushu
posted: 11:54 am
"I don't dispute what Nomvete did, but Sangweni did well in ALL competitions."
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Maybe the coaches should be given a simple ballot to cast their vote for the PSL Footballer of the season, since this the award is give to an induvidual who peformed well in ALL competitions, there is no doubt that Sangweni was the derserving one, take nothing away fron Bhele, he desrved all PSL awards, let's see:

Sangweni @ MTN 8 = 9/10 - Won the CUP
Nomvete @ MTN 8 = 0/10 - Simply because he did not participate
Sangweni @ Telkom Knockout = 9/10 - Won the CUP
Nomvete @ Telkom Knockout = 4/10 - Knocked out by Pirates on 1/4 Finals
Sangweni @ Nedbank CUP = 6/10 - Knocked out @ 1/4 Finals
Nomvete @ Nedbank CUP = 4/10 - Knocked out @ last 16
Sangweni @ PSL = 8/10 - Won the CUP
Nomvete @ PSL = 10/10 - He was the best player in the PSL

This will bring us to average score for both players @

Sangweni = 32 Points
Nomvete = 18 Points

Therefore, the winner is Sangweni, I think the coaches should be given the ballot where the weigh players on each conpetition and ADD all their points, that way they won't have a choice but give the deserving player the PSL Footballer of the year award,

@ Khosi Supporters, before you kill me, I'm not saying this because I'm a BUCS supporter, but like the criteria says " The award is give to a player who excelled in ALL competition" so I'm sure you will agree with me that Bhele was no where to be found at MTN 8, Telkom knockout, which Sangweni won.
My Boss
posted: 11:56 am
While Nomvete shone in the League and failed with Coach of the Season Gordon Igesund’s Swallows in the cups, Sangweni played 28 League games for the Buccaneers, scoring vital goals against Bloemfontein Celtic and Golden Arrows in the title-clinching final two games.

He also played in EVERY knock-out match, where Pirates won the MTN8 trophy and the Telkom Knock-out, where Sangweni was voted Defender of the Tournament.
PSL couches are all haters, we are going to break the hearts still next season.I thought people use their mind to think until this episode, they also use their emotions and their feil heart.
SisterP
posted: 12:03 pm
im not a pirates fan and i would like them to be relegated, but Sangweni played well this season, Nomvethe scored goals. If we use percentage as the writer has said, Sangweni scored more goals than Nomvethe percentage wise. Remember Sangweni is a defender but scored 7 goals, Nomvethe is a striker but scored 20 goals. in ever 3 goals scored by Nomvethe, Sangweni scored a goal. He was a defender. Sangweni takes the cake it does not matter how you look at it.
Goodman
posted: 12:06 pm
For me this category of the footballer of the season should be scrap once and for all because it seems whoever is voting for it is not following the criteria that we were wants told about. They keeping making the same mistake again and again, I would have said its the hatred to the black and white success or jelousy, but no its not because when Teko Modise wont it back to back we were questioning the same thing but nobody listen's and this divides the football fratenity. Scrap this stupid category once and for all.
Mgugudi: The Treble Addict
posted: 12:20 pm
I am suprised by this sudden interest in Nomvethe, few months ago he was nowhere to be seen among top perfomer exept scoring few goals. People were talking about Manqele as a potential golden boot winner as well as player of the season. Soccer commentators even went further to argue that no players deserve to be a Pof S based on what they have seen which in itself was a preparatory insult for what we have seen & done to Sangweni.

When Bhele started scoring few goal & more penalties in the last games of the season and when Pirates began showing a surge to win the league, the focus from Pirates haters suddently changed.

Nomvethe became the best thing ever.

Pirates was the team under pressure even though Swallows was 2 points behind. The mind games were played by the media 1st & Gordon rode on the wave. Even opposition coaches started making pregnant statements cruising on hatred against Pirates as if its the only team they play against. The belief was that Swallows will win & Pirates will loose.

Out of a blue Steve Khompela was mediocre even though he proved to be the best coach all season, using the unknown players that the big teams are now scrumbling for. Gordon was elevated into a messiah because his team challanged Pirates after KC & Down chocked. Gordon was judged from last season when they faced relegation into now. A sentimental trend that is seen even in this article by Neal. They never judged him on the current season alone which was unfair to Khompela, and the fact that he used 1 of the most expirienced squads in the PSL.

For us Pirates supporters we knew what was going to happen & were not supprised by the outcome.
MP
posted: 12:23 pm
pirates has beaten teams to win the league
It beaten teams to win MTN8
and beaten teams to win Telkom knockout
so who will in his rightful mind to vote for a player from a team that took almost all trophies home. No one and remember most PSL coaches dont like OP

so this i simple coaches should not be the ones to decide on this award.
Persius
posted: 12:39 pm
As a football fan am disappointed by the results of the footballer of the season/year (FOY) award...PSL awards bhele won them on Merit but FOY it was just a give away. Bhele Won Nothing but performed very well in the league hence his PSL Three awards. As for the footballer of the year Bhele and Mathebula are all from swallows who performed poorly in the cup competition and that only leaves Sangweni with three medals in all competitions and a 1/4 final appearance plus regular Bafana games...what more can u ask for to prove that he Deserved it without a doubt. Siyabonga Was denied his rightful award.
Zeee
posted: 12:43 pm
SisterP: 2012-05-29 12:03 [ Report ]


im not a pirates fan and i would like them to be relegated, but Sangweni played well this season, Nomvethe scored goals. If we use percentage as the writer has said, Sangweni scored more goals than Nomvethe percentage wise. Remember Sangweni is a defender but scored 7 goals, Nomvethe is a striker but scored 20 goals. in ever 3 goals scored by Nomvethe, Sangweni scored a goal. He was a defender. Sangweni takes the cake it does not matter how you look at it.
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Well said Sister P, for the first time since i've been a member here you talk unbiased, you just look at things realistic, for once you took away that Gold and Black glasses and you were true and real....

Last season people bacasha ngokuthi Jali didn't get it because even though he did well u-Serero umhlule ngokuthi u-score amagoli, what is an excuse this season? Sangweni as a defender played very well and not only played well he scored goals in every competition and what more was he suppose to do to get what was rightfully his, what he worked hard for, was he suppose to score 20 goals like Nomvethe to be given the award?....I like it when Sister P says for every 3 goals Nomvethe scored Sangweni scored 1 and as a defender baningi abadlulile even some strikers....

For once let us be realistic and stop looking at things on a Gold and Black, Black & white and even Yellow glasses....I pause

Ghost Ninja
posted: 12:43 pm
Sangweni himself, of course, showed no sign of discomfort. He told Soccer Laduma: “Nomvete deserved the big award. Honestly, Bhele worked hard this past season - I’m happy for him, which is why I congratulated him and would like to congratulate him once again.

“I can’t blame anyone because those who selected him believed he was more deserving. We see things differently, as some people think I should’ve won the award but that’s how football is. I have no hard feelings about it because being nominated in almost every award means I did well and I’m happy about it.”

Bhele Nomvete was robbed but to fair Sangweni was robbed, reminds me of the Jali/Serero saga last year. From the above statement we can see that Sangweni has no hard feelings and i commend him for that. He has achieved what he set out to achieve when he joined Pirates and that's winning the leaguge and some cups, the Footballer of the year was gonna be a cherry on top. Long Live The Treble...
Ghost Ninja
posted: 12:46 pm
'Eish typo, i meant to say Bhele deserved all the awards except the Footballer of the season, Sangweni was robbed..."
Ma-Percent
posted: 12:48 pm
in the not-so-distant past a certain Teko Modise was awarded the prize and everyone was up in arms asking what has he won to deserve the prize; and now Nomvethe has won it with no title to show. I agree with Neal that Pirates depth made it difficult for one to select an overall outstanding player. the whole Pirates team was just brilliant. Price or no price Siya "Ntsimbi- Yster"Sangweni is a stalward
Matjeketje
posted: 12:49 pm
Most ignorant Pirates suppoters do you guys remember this:

Teko Modise won this award ahead of Khune who won most silverware while Teko won nothing that season but it went to him and you the very same supporters/fans said: yeah he deserves it.

Now the very same award that went to Nomvete irrespective of not winning anything now is a matter of who's incharge of selecting or awarding people who deserves it..?

It amazes me that Khune & Mushin Etrugal didn't moan & cry about it but your Bennie & Palacious are the one to cry wherelse now you fans/supporters agrees with them.

Sangweni is a good instrumental player who played a major viata role at Bucs but if he didn't get anything i wish it washim who said it to the people not Palacious, again now Moneeb Josephs is with Bafana & Bennie was the one talking too much...?


SPORTS WANTS PEOPLE WITH A BIG HEART & A PASSION TO PLAY IT, WORSE WE SUPPORTERS MUST SUPPORT IT OPEN HEARTDETLY BECAUSE WITHOUT US THERE IS NO SPORTS...!
Mgugudi: The Treble Addict
posted: 01:02 pm
@ Matjeketje:

It is not about Teko but about Sangweni. You will remember the commotion it caused when Teko won it. The question are "have we learn from the past?" "is personal hatred of certain teams / players / owners used to deny deserving players?" "do these coaches who laughed at Pitso for misreading the rules know the rule of the awards?" "what must be done to mitigate this crises of jumping from 1 disaster to the next?" not the alleged ignorance of Pirates supporters.

It starts with you, hater...
Fela
posted: 01:34 pm
Now because Teko won this award before when he did not deserve it, it is ok for another player to win it when he does nt deserve it. Neal you can print all the garbage you wan to try and justify this miscarriage of the rules of the awards but your hatred for Orlando Pirates and their chairman is glaring.

I listened to some of the comments made by journalists why Sndiland was the keeper of the season, laughable bencause he is the weakest link in that Sundowns defense and until he is replaced by Onyango this team will never win the league. Excuses such as Sandiland played behind a weak defence and Moneeb played behind an experinced stronger defence is just absolute crab. Moneeb saved Pirates from defeat on several occasions one on one with the keeper. Nomvethe played well however most of his goals were tap ins. Sangweni dont you worry the Iron Duke will reward you for your performance.
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