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How Bafana Bafana can reach Round of 16

How Bafana can reach Round of 16

Posted: 2010-06-18 08:36

If South Africa beat France next week, then they can still qualify for the knockout phase of the World Cup on goal difference if either Mexico or Uruguay lose (if the two group leaders draw, then forget); but, both of these sides have a far superior goal difference to Bafana Bafana.

Here are the permutations:
If South Africa win 1-0; then Uruguay must beat Mexico by FIVE goals, or Mexico must beat Uruguay by SIX;
If South Africa win 2-0; then Uruguay must beat Mexico by FOUR goals, or Mexico must beat Uruguay by FIVE;
If South Africa win 3-0; then Uruguay must beat Mexico by THREE goals, or Mexico must beat Uruguay by FOUR; and so on…

If Uruguay beat Mexico 1-0; then Bafana must beat France by FOUR goals;
If Mexico beat Uruguay 1-0; then Bafana must beat France by FIVE goals;
If Uruguay beat Mexico 2-0; then Bafana must beat France by THREE goals (equal goal difference, more goals scored);
If Mexico beat Uruguay 2-0; then Bafana must beat France by FOUR goals; and so on…

Here is where it gets particularly interesting:
If South Africa win 2-1; and Uruguay beat Mexico 4-0, then Bafana Bafana and El Tri have finished tie, with an identical goals for and against record, and level on head to head.

Similarly, of Bafana beat France 2-0 and Uruguay beat Mexico 3-0, then Bafana and the Mexicans will be absolutely level again.

So what happens then?

Wait for it folks: Lots will be drawn. Can Bafana ever get that lucky?

Here’s the Fifa rule on this:
The ranking of each team in each group will be determined as follows:
a) greatest number of points obtained in all group matches;
b) goal difference in all group matches;
c) greatest number of goals scored in all group matches.
If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above three criteria, their
rankings will be determined as follows:
d) greatest number of points obtained in the group matches between the
teams concerned;
e) goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams
concerned;
f) greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams
concerned;
g) drawing of lots by the Fifa Organising Committee.

Richard Maguire

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Skepe Mketule: 2010-06-18 08:52

Lets learn to accept defeat, these ppl had great chance against Mexico, we should have thwarted them 4-1, start preparing for AFCON n 2014 stop creating unnecessary expactations from us,

Bouga : 2010-06-18 08:55

Why stress about something that is not gonna happen. We all know that Mokoena will concede 2 goals

Proffesor: 2010-06-18 09:00

I don’t see us making it… I mean in France 98 we needed to win our last game against Said Arabia to qualify for the second… France did us a fever by beating Denmark! We didn’t as we drew 2-all!

Then it was Korea/Japan in 2002 were we needed to draw our last game against Spain to qualify for the next round… we lost 3-2. Spain and Paraguay made the second round.

For the previous World Cup was easy for us to make the second round especially when we went to our last games. Now look at the 2010 last game… BAFANA needs to score more than 3 goals to qualify and HOPE… now tell me if this will happen?

Confederations Cup was the same story were we got helped by New Zealand after drawing with Iran. All now we can do is just go OUT there and support the boys and enjoy our last game in Bloemfontein as ‘me’ I don’t see any miracles…

General: 2010-06-18 09:07

Let us stop promising ourselves by something that will never happen,France will want to do the same thing to us so you can see here that the dog will eat dog.Mina l have lost all the hopes that l once had with BB.Let us think about qualifying Afcon and the next World Cup with the new overhauled technical team that needs to be appointed asap.And the BB management and technical team must be ex proffesional players people who will be there with a passion not for the sake of money like Nkumane,Mumble,Pitso etc.The tug of war for positions in SAFA will never take us anywhere instead those who are working for must know that they are representing the nation there and the job that they are doing must be good and they to start the development from the foundation phase.Also we need to stop recruiting players from other countries if we do so than when are we going to have our our own Jomo Sono,Ntsoelengoe,Teenage,Ndlanya,Samora Khulu,Sizwe Motaung,David Nyathi,Doctor K and so forth.I think this is high time where we must stop this greediness to soccer officials abaneliswa.UNITE MZANSI UNITE.

Sechaba: 2010-06-18 09:07

Kaizer7,Maar Why are you so childish?

leo: 2010-06-18 09:09

Should i say i THINK we OUT or should i say, lets forget about tha game. but looking at SA's record against France and predicting the results BAFANA will atleast manage a better results of 0-0 draw against france. there's no way in hell we can beat france not today and not then.

Disco: 2010-06-18 09:16

Why must we always dream of being carried to the next round instead of just walking there? If we so believe that we are good enough. Besides, what is more important – going to the next round or winning the cup? If going through to the knockout is more important; then what are we playing for?

We can all console ourselves and claim patriotism, the fact of the matter is that we are not good enough. We’ve always set low goals for ourselves as a country and that’s the mentality that is unfortunately being installed into the next generation. We have failed many times in this tournament because of the same things. Even at club level we are not doing well. Football is a nightmare in this country.

And just because some of you still believe and some don’t, does not mean those that blive are more patriotic than those that does not believe. We have different views and that must be respected.

Besides, some cheer their individual players more than the team itself. So, is that being patriotic? Loyal fans don’t criticize; they rally behind every team member, not individuals.

Fact is BB players and its whole administration has failed us and that must be acknowledged without fear and/or prejudice.

Problem with some of us in this country, if not all, is that we fail to acknowledge our failures. We always want to cover it up by comparison.

UNTIL OUR PLAYERS ARE TACTICAL LY AND TECHNICALLY SUPERIOR, THIS WILL ALWAYS BE THE RESULTS.

IF A COUNTRY IS FAILLING TO EXPORT PLAYERS, THEN YOU MUST KNOW THAT THERE IS A BIG PROBLEM WITH THE PRODUCTS FROM THAT COUNTRY

BLESSED

Stonza: 2010-06-18 09:19

Bafana we will make you proud with our support and please make us proud with giving your best on tuesday!!!sizokuba in- outisha kaofela!!!!if we go down, we going down with a BANG...hotaaaaaaaaaaaa ta bana, haku senamaqhika France, there is no more french revolution!!!!sizobangena, siba entarishe bese sibavala...4-0 halakashaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Slim Kat
Pa Gaxa,Mbazo,Kumalo,masilela
-----------Yeye
Schillo ------------Shabba
-----------Teko
----------------Moriri
------Killer

Shaaaaaapa bafana shapaaaaaa
Dubula Killer siyawafuna lama goali
*Asoooooooze sapel' amandla, aaaasooooooze*

Ike : 2010-06-18 09:20

Miracles ended in jesus's era. No such thing will happen in this century. The coach has just embarrassed us. We better focus now on something else.

stickma: 2010-06-18 09:23

BAFANA BAFANA KE NAKO

Born: 11 June 2010

Died: 16 June 2010

He leaves behind 49 million South Africans..........

He will be buried on 22 June 2010

Venue: Bloemfontein Mangaung Stadium

Time: 16H00

R.I.P

"The hopes were too high but joy was short-lived"

(Aron M.2:verse.1)

stickma: 2010-06-18 09:24

Jingotres: 2010-06-18 09:24

This is absolutely nonsense.
Forget all about this.We wr Lucky during the Confed Cup i ths kind of situation.
But now i can Safely say Mission Impossible & Confidntly say
Mission Impossible.
Christmas comes Once in a Year.
No Luck this time"It World Cup "..
Sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry.

joseph: 2010-06-18 09:29

Guys this editor must stop raising our hopes we are tired of been heart broken, and lets not forget this South americans & Concacaf region are very cunning- Mexico & Uruguay will play out a draw on that day, you guys just watch that is what both teams will do, just to make sure that France & Bafana do not go through, this Mexicans & Uruguay are not reliable teams to be professional about it.

stickma: 2010-06-18 09:30

Mdenana : 2010-06-18 09:33

Stop leaving in a fools paradise,with playas like Mokoena & Modise who needs an enemy/rival.For the next Bafana coach pls drop these 2 cows & I thank you in advance.Give Schillo the captaincy & put Booth since this coach hurried to drop Gould & incl. Parker 2.

Kanyamazane: 2010-06-18 09:34

There is a saying that Why fix it if it is not broken? Ours is broken and serious changes are needed.As an arm chair coach i can only come with suggestions and hope either Pitso or Parreira are checking our posts here. I suggest the following starting eleven:1. Moeneeb, 2. Anele 3. Masilela 4. Khumalo 5. Sangweni 6. Khoboni 7. Bhele 8. Modise 9. Mphela 10. Tshabalala 11. Parker. Subs: Depending on how the game goes he can bring anyone as long as we are not going to defend. Good Luck Bafana at least just register a win on the African soil.Otherwise I am gonna feel it until the 11 July whether you make it or not. I might not live to see the WC in the African continent ever again.

stickma: 2010-06-18 09:37

Thabang [The KHOSI One]: 2010-06-18 09:38

Some people think our counrty is a JOKE and they keep on making SUPID jokes about our BB.

We not as gifted as other countries but we are proud of what-ever little we have.

The KHOSI One

Stonza: 2010-06-18 09:40

KaMashobana: 2010-06-18 09:40

It doesnt help to think like a grade 1 child. The tournament did not end for BB last night but on wednesday night. Even if the two teams drew last night...we will still NOT beat France.

Wonder: You have put it very well.." Guys we do not have the required quality at this level, period ! " Yes the French lost 2-0 but are MILES ahead of us. Anybody entertaining the idea of beating them 3/4/5 is either naive or a friend of Mabizela(OJ).

Lets just appoint a new coach, focus on the next Afcon and accept that we have broken the record: of being only country in the history of football, to host the world cup and be shown the EXIT door in the group stage. Records are there to be broken anywhere!!!!!!!!!!!

stickma: 2010-06-18 09:49

Once a Chiefs fan always a Fool: 2010-06-18 09:50

Guys, please don't stress yourselves about Bafana Bafana and enjoy the world cup as a whole. Bafana is out and only the miracle can save them. I will be in Bloemfontein on Tuesday to watch them as a matter of formality. Viva SA world cup viva..

stickma: 2010-06-18 09:52

Once a Chiefs fan always a Fool: 2010-06-18 09:55

KaMashobana: 2010-06-18 09:40
stickma: 2010-06-18 09:49

I fully agree with you guys.

Mesh - K 4 L: 2010-06-18 09:59

Guys!!!Lets stop dreaming about qualification,we had 6 yrs to prepare for such things.Even if the boys were promised 5 aeroplanes each,we wud not have qualified cos we can't even beat Namibia at home nogal!

I'm sure if we promised to give them our girlfriends for a weekend,they would beat all teams by 3nil HE HE HE HE HE!!!BAFANA BAFANA!

We are now left with the WHAT IF'S!Anyway,lets not stop dreaming SA is an amazing country full of miracles............................................

Smallicious : 2010-06-18 10:00

Hey wena Stinks/Sticks or whatever u call urself, if u dont have something better to do just go to the nearest hell and die there 4 all i care. If u think ur funny, no ur not.

Thabang [The KHOSI One]: 2010-06-18 10:02

Guys stop posting all these nonsense about BB;

Even if or should I say when we lose against France...We still love and support our BB,

The KHOSI One

Jingotres: 2010-06-18 10:06

I AM SELLING MY VUVUZELA,BAFANA T SHIRT, 4 SA FLAGS, MIRROR COVERS,MAKARAPA AND TRACKSUIT,SCARF AND THE TICKET FOR THEIR LAST MATCH WITH FRANCE.
ALL THESE ITEMS WERE USED TWICE ONLY AND STILL IN GOOD CONDITION, THEY ALL GO FOR R100.00

FIRST COME FIRST SERVE - “FINISH & KLAAR”!!

Bonga: 2010-06-18 10:08

We are hopeless bafethu. We must be realistic. Yes, there is nothing impossible in soccer but this time I think we must enjoy being WC winners i.e. hosting 2010 FIFA WC.

ceehle27 : 2010-06-18 10:13

Jonathan if you have the France game tickets please sell them this way. What's your number? Or call me. On 0332399355

Smallicious : 2010-06-18 10:16

Guys some things we have to accept, in Mzansi we are not that good i football than we are with other sports lyk i.e Rugby and Cricket. Infact we shud be greatful that we even got recognised by FIFA by allowing us to such an event. now that counts 4 something. Proudly Mzansican.

Thabang [The KHOSI One]: 2010-06-18 10:47

KING: 2010-06-18 10:22 [ Report ]
((Unlike bo Stonza/Thabang who find her wife sleeping another man and stil say we can fix things.))

KING, you ****ogy is not relevant to the matter at hand.
A better example should be “you disown your own child because she was born with disabilities”
My attitude is straightforward and that is: we (SA) are not as gifted as other countries from footballing’s perspective but should be proud of that little we have.

I did not say BB will win their next game, ALL I am saying is that we are still South African and BB is still our FIFA-recognised official football team and they (BB) are part of us (South Africa)

I am not going to run away from my responsibilities dude; unlike you, clearly you’d disown your own child because she’s born abnormal.

The KHOSI One

Swona Champ!: 2010-06-18 10:49

impossible dream, France, SA out!

Sfiso M: 2010-06-18 10:51

South Africans lets accept it we lost this one, all is not lost. We struggle to score a goal in a match, how on earth do we permutate scoring 3 goals or more. Back to the drawing board and build for the future as we have been doing since 1997, building for the future.
Bafana yonke indawo........

Maestro KC: 2010-06-18 11:16

simple we need to win by 6 goals to nil and hope that Uruguay beat Mexico...

Thabang [The KHOSI One]: 2010-06-18 11:28

KING: 2010-06-18 11:21 [ Report ]

KING, skill alone does not win matches dude. Clearly you never kicked a soccer ball.

The KHOSI One

leponapona: 2010-06-18 11:29

with the performance i saw against Uruguay i dont think we can score a goal,BB is like a chicken to roost nothing else, even prostitute ha e jewe so.

Thabang [The KHOSI One]: 2010-06-18 11:31

KING: 2010-06-18 11:21 [ Report ]

KING, did you know that Teko Modise is more skillful than the whole USA team combined? However his skill alone cannot help BB. He's very disadvantaged in other aspects of the game...but we still proud of the little he has.

The KHOSI One

Thabang [The KHOSI One]: 2010-06-18 11:37

KING: 2010-06-18 11:21 [ Report ]
(Thabang clearly u dont know SA football, SA is equally gifted to Brasil in terms of soccer maybe even better. )

KING, you embarrassing me boet! To you, football is only about skill? Yes, we (SA) are probably the most skillful bunch on earth, but the likes of Brazil way superior to us in all other aspects of the game.

I am proud of whatever we have in SA.

The KHOSI One

Disco: 2010-06-18 11:37

KING: 2010-06-18 11:21 [ Report ]

King, with due respect my brother. Please substantiate by giving us examples e.g. are you comparing Jabu vs. Messi on tactical or technical abilities? Plse use the above example to finish your comparison list. Im interested.

I for one beleive football is not about only skill. There is a lot that is required for you to be a complete player e.g. attitude, tactical and technical application etc. These attributes are very important for any athlete, especially those that compete at the highest level.

Besides, sometimes i hear ppl talking about experience in years. I still say - experience is measured by what knowledge did you acquire during those years. And again, the knowledge acquired, can it be used to succeed?

I a nut shell, do our players and other teams that fail to win the WC have all those attributes? If the ansa is no, then, they need to grow their knowledge base about the game. If yes, then surely there is no reason for them not to win or else, they are just not good enough to win. Therefore, they need to improve.

Football game is won on the day

Blessed

Stonza: 2010-06-18 11:42

We in South Africa and just like any country, God has a special plan for us. Tell me one time we succeeded without suffering? I will give you countless times we succeeded because we had to go through painful suffering.

1. Remember when we were oppressed by the minority rule that designed an Apartheid system to discriminate each other – You do know how united we are for Bafana today.
2. Can you remember how frustrated we were when we were beaten 4-0, 4-1, 3-0 by Nigeria, Ghana and Zimbabwe respectively in 1994/1995 – You do know who was crowned African Champs 1996
3. How did you feel when 2006 World Cup was given to Germany by one vote instead of us? – How excited you are to host diverse countries in 2010 World Cup?

Our problem thina bantu baseMzantsi, we like to pretend as if we do not know that God’s plan for us needs more than a word ‘FAITH’. Look where we are in the African map and look at the shape of our country. Come-on guys you cannot give up now on BAFANA BAFANA.

I know you didn’t give up on Madiba, naye didn’t give up instead he waited in a prison cell for you, for me and for this country.

I know you didn’t give up your dreams, because like me you were once down and confused but now you know come payday you gonna eat the meat and drink a sparkling water (I mean it’s by choice that you still buy Drink-o-pop and tin of Pilchard). We have come a long way to give up on our boys just like that.

Let the SPIRIT go on, it’s here and make it remain here!

SUPPORT BAFANA BAFANA in their last group stages game against France.

PLEASE SEND THIS MESSAGE OF HOPE TO ALL THOSE YOU KNOW ARE DISSAPPOINTED BY LAST GAME, REMEMBER THOSE WHO SUFFER CONQUER!!!

With hope

Thabang [The KHOSI One]: 2010-06-18 11:52

Stonza: 2010-06-18 11:42 [ Report ]

STONZA, I like this attitude my man...and to add to your wise words....WE are not saying BB will win against France (but of course we hope and wish the do). But all we saying is there was BB before WC and there will still be BB after WC and our boys need our support.

When we WIN we win as a nation and when lose we lose as One United Nation

The KHOSI One

Khosi 4 Life Since 1970: 2010-06-18 11:58

Richard Maguire

This permutations & FIFA rules are congesting my Medulla Oblongata!

Thulani: 2010-06-18 12:04

Kaizer, do you know the meaning of the word "realistic"? I don't think so my man. The game plan from day 1 wasn't up to scratch, even if your favourite players, whoever they are, were in the starting line up. Uruguay came with a different plan to the one that they used agaist France, i.e. attack us with three strikers? What did our coach do about that. It also looks like Pienaar doesn't adapt to the coach's game plan, not necessarily that he is a bad player and if you think he is bad than there is something wring with your head. Teko is off form, yet the coach selects him AND IT'S NOT TEKO SELECTING HIMSELF AS MOST OF YOU ARROGANT PEOPLE WANT TO THINK THAT. Nomvete has experience and pace, yet he is warming the bench, Killer is all by himself, and nothing is done. Even if the miracle happens, can we match Argenitina, I don't think so guys.

Khosi 4 Life Since 1970: 2010-06-18 12:10

Stonza & Thabang, I think you said it all....not editing or addition whatsoever. South African Most Celebrated Clown like KING are clueless about soccer in totality. Look at the current Brazil squad, they just play a clean, trap & pass football and guess what, they are succeeding, So KINg will tell you about skilful players.....KING you a shameless man!

Khosi 4 Life Since 1970: 2010-06-18 12:16

Thulani: 2010-06-18 12:04

Phhleease undincede, don't compare countries!!! argentina is Argentina & South Africa is South Africa. this are two countries far from each other i.t.o play. Mzansi came to this WC as underdogs that never won any WC let alone qualifying for the last 16 round. So, if you are frustrated, phhlleeaasse help me, just fokof and take your frustration elsewhere not here. If you want to vomit and it your vomit go somewhere else!!

Khosi 4 Life Since 1970: 2010-06-18 12:33

WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT TO BAFANA BAFANA:

1. There are no rules of architecture for building a castle in the clouds

2.Faith can move mountains. doubt can create them.

3. All personal achievement start within the mind of the individual.

4. Go and dare to create your own history.

5. There are two ways to face the next France match. One way is with apprehension; the other is with anticipation.

6. It's never too late to redeem yourself.

Lastly, know that we South Africans still love to see youparticipating in the next match regardless of the results.

SHAPPA BAFANA BAFANA SHAPPA!

Naked Truth: 2010-06-18 12:37

@Kaizer: Idiots come in diff sizes, yours is big, why dont you come and replace us and see what its like fool!!!!!

Naked Truth: 2010-06-18 12:48

@Kaizer; you are really stupid, your team broke the record for lowest ranked host of any world cup, now you disgrace us even further by crashing out of the group stages, another record there for any world host team crashing out in the group stages? gambling is your only chance, you ****** rapist, if it was a raping contest you guys would have won hands down, I would rather live next to a drug dealer than a rapist like you, remember that next time u come to the NIGERIAN kickoff site and start talking rubbish!! small boy Idiot!!! Devils child

Naked Truth: 2010-06-18 12:54

@Kaizer7:
and by the way Mexico won that match, the goal they scored wasn't off side, Kaizer7 the village clown the way u insult nigerians, it seems to me that one of them must have sorted out your wife or girlfriend and thats why you have some hate in you idiot!! I bet you are a ugly little fat pimple sitting behind the keyboard writing kak, small boy!!

Jacob/Styles: 2010-06-18 12:58

Stonza! Well said my brother I draw so much inspiration from your word of encouragement. I also listened to Tokyo ***wale on morning live when he said "the WC will pass however all will remain with us i.e. beautiful stadiums, hotels, roads and our beloved Bafana Bafana.

For me really bowing out in the first round is a disappointment however not the end of the world. Building towards the WC we had a glimpse of a great team with lot of potential, which I believe we can build for 2012 AFCON and 2014 WC in Brasil. Viva Bafana Viva!

Disco: 2010-06-18 13:28

All I can say is that, let’s not let OUR LOVE FOR THIS COUNTRY BLIND OUR JUDGEMENT AND TRUTH.

stickma: 2010-06-18 13:54

I do believe that our National Team and Managers should never have allowed "Sangomas" to partake in the affairs of our team (that is to ply their unholy medicines and rituals). This was very confusing. I am sure it became a battle of the gods. The great God of Heaven is a jealous God. Just look at the strange things that happened to Bafana Bafana, the Ball and the match in General. The Sangomas of Bafana Bafana has failed. Their is only one God. His name is Jehova.

Matimu : 2010-06-18 14:05

people stop thinking and stressing about the progress of Bafana , because we all know that the damage is done and nothing left to say . The only thing that is left for as as the host is to wish the other country Fair play and good luck.

leponapona: 2010-06-18 14:48

stickma u'r spot on bro, S.Africans must know that there is only one god, they are busy inviting darkness hence this misfortunes.

Ntokozo: 2010-06-19 00:50

Im a Proud South African. Irrespective!!!

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